2013 Honda Pilot

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA PILOT. THE CONTACT STATED THAT UPON START OF HER VEHICLE, THE EMISSION, CHECK ENGINE AND VEHICLE STABILITY WARNING LIGHTS ILLUMINATED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE CONTACT THEN TOOK THE VEHICLE TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHO INFORMED HER THAT OIL HAD SPILLED ALL OVER THE ENGINE AND THAT THE ENGINE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONTACT THEN TOWED THE VEHICLE TO GARY YEOMANS HONDA (752 N TOMOKA FARMS RD, DAYTONA BEACH, FL 32124) WHERE THEY CONFIRMED THAT THE PISTON RINGS HAD FAILED LEADING TO THE OIL LEAK. THE MECHANIC ALSO INFORMED HER THAT THE ENGINE NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. UPON INVESTIGATION, THE CONTACT LINKED THE FAILURE TO NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 13V382000 (ENGINE) HOWEVER, THE VIN WAS NOT UNDER RECALL. THE MANUFACTURER HAD YET TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE HAD YET TO BE REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 80,000.

WHILE DRIVING VEHICLE OBD SHOWS CODE P0304. VEHICLE HAD POOR ACCELERATION WHILE MISFIRING. TOOK VEHICLE INTO HONDA DEALERSHIP AND THEY STATE A RE-RING OF FOUR CYLINDERS NEEDED. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE "SOTO CLASS ACTION SETTLEMENT" IN THE "HONDA MISFIRE CASE" THAT RESULTED IN A SERVICE BULLETIN AND EXTENSION TO THE WARRANTY. DEALERSHIP STATES ALTHOUGH THIS VEHICLE MEETS THE MODEL AND YEAR CRITERIA FOR THIS PROBLEM, THE VIN SHOWS IT WAS BUILT IN A FACTORY THAT DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THE REMEDY TO BE PAID FOR BY HONDA. DEALERSHIP AGREES IT IS THE SAME PROBLEM AND SAME MAINTENANCE ACTION REQUIRED AS THE OTHER VEHICLES THAT ARE COVERED BY THE CLASS ACTION LAW SUIT. HONDA AMERICA REFUSES TO REMEDY THE PROBLEM. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT HONDA REFUSES TO TAKE CARE OF EVEN THOUGH IT IS WELL KNOWN FROM OTHER SAME MODEL/YEAR VEHICLES. PLEASE HELP!

MY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON AND MY MECHANIC INFORMED ME THAT THE CODE WAS COVERED UNDER A WARRANTY EXTENSION BY HONDA. I TOOK MY VEHICLE TO THE DEALER, THEY AGREED AND REPLACE 4 OF THE 6 MISFIRING PISTONS. THEY RECOMMENDED I REPLACE THE OTHER 2 PISTONS AT MY COST. I DID NOT. THE DEALER SAID THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH THEM AND THAT'S WHY THEY WEREN'T REPLACING THEM. I LATER FOUND OUT THAT THEY ALSO REPLACED SCORED BEARINGS. UPON PICKING UP MY VEHICLE, I TOOK IT TO MY MECHANIC TO FIX A BUSHING THAT THE DEALER RECOMMENDED BE REPLACED. MY VEHICLE WAS ALSO MAKING A TINGING NOISE I WANT LOOKED AT. IT WAS NOT MAKING THIS NOISE PRIOR TO BEING REPAIRED AT DEALER. MY MECHANIC FIXED THE BUSHING AND SUGGESTED I TAKE IT BACK TO THE DEALER AS THE ISSUE WAS A DIRECT RESULT OF THE BURNING OIL WHICH WAS A RESULT OF THE BAD PISTONS. IT WAS THEN THAT THE DEALER TOLD ME ABOUT THE SCORED BEARINGS. THEY SAID THEY WENT TO THEIR REP BECAUSE THERE WAS DAMAGE. I NEEDED A NEW ENGINE. (APPARENTLY THIS WAS KNOWN WHEN I PICKED UP MY CAR THE FIRST TIME). THE REP FOR THE DEALERSHIP INFORMED THEM THAT BECAUSE MY OIL CHANGES WERE DONE AT A PRIVATE MECHANIC AND NOT AT THE DEALERSHIP, NO GOOD WILL WOULD BE GIVEN AND I WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR REPLACING THE ENGINE AT MY OWN COST, AS WELL AS THE WRECKED CATALYTIC CONVERTER, ALSO A RESULT OF THE BURNED OIL FROM THE BAD PISTONS. THE DEALER SUGGESTED I CONTACT AMERICAN HONDA. I DID SO AND AFTER SEVERAL PHONE CALLS THE DEALER WAS INFORMED BY AMERICAN HONDA THAT THE DECISION WAS UP TO THE REP. THE DEALER REACHED OUT TO THE REP AGAIN AND AGAIN REP REFUSED TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I NOW HAVE A VEHICLE WHICH I STILL HAVE 2.5 YEARS OF PAYMENTS (I'VE OWNED IT FOR 2.5 YEARS) THAT CANNOT NOT BE DRIVEN. HONDA SHOULD FIX THIS AS THE PROBLEM IS A RESULT OF THE THE DAMAGE CAUSE BY THEIR FAULTY PISTONS! **NOTE: DATE BELOW IS APPROXIMATE**

CHECK FUEL CAP MESSAGE COMES ON SOMETIMES EVEN AFTER I TIGHTEN THE FUEL CAP. SOMETIMES THE MESSAGE STOPS ON ITS OWN. DON'T KNOW WHY. CHECK ENGINE LIGHT COMES ON SOMETIMES AND GOES OFF ON ITS OWN. DON'T KNOW WHY. I NOTICED THESE ALERTS WHEN THE CAR IS MOVING OR SITTING AT AN IDLE. CITY DRIVING WITH VERY LITTLE HIGHWAY DRIVING. I CHECKED HONDA WEBSITE TODAY FOR A LIST OF RECALLS ON MY VIN, BUT THE WEBSITE SAID THAT THERE WERE NOT OPEN RECALLS ON MY VEHICLE. I WONDER ABOUT THE AIRBAGS IN THE VEHICLE.

THE CAR HAS ENGINE CHECK LIGHT AND TRACTION LIGHTS ARE ON. MECHANIC DIAGNOSED THE CODES TO MATCH A RECALL WHICH MY VIN IS EXCLUDED EVEN THOUGHT I AM FACING THE SAME EXACT ISSUE. PISTON MISFIRING AND THE ENGINE CAN LOCK AT ANY TIME CAUSING AN ACCIDENT. CODES GIVE TO ME BY MECHANIC THAT SAID THAT HONDA SHOULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE: DTC - P0301 AND P0304. BULLETIN -13-082. DTC 83-11 AND DTC - 83-12. DEALERSHIP NEVER MENTIONED THIS TO ME I HAD TO GO TO INDEPENDENT MECHANIC. INFO: HTTPS://STATIC.NHTSA.GOV/ODI/TSBS/2013/SB-10053786-6271.PDF SUMMARY: "THE PISTON RINGS ON CERTAIN CYLINDERS MAY ROTATE AND ALIGN WHICH CAN LEAD TO SPARK PLUG FOULING. THIS CAN SET DTCS P0301 THROUGH P0304 AND CAUSE THE MIL TO COME ON" THIS ISSUE CAME UP TWO TIMES. FIRST THE DEALERSHIP ASKED ME TO SERVICE ALL CAR PARTS WHICH I DID TO GET THE ENGINE LIGHT FIXED - COST ME $1000. THEN THE SECOND TIME THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT CAME ON THEY TOLD ME THEY CLEANED THE PISTONS AND I SHOULD BE GOOD. THE THIRD TIME I BROUGHT THE CAR BACK TO THEM ALL IN ABOUT THREE WEEKS, THEY SAID OH... YOU NEED $3K TO DO THIS PROCEDURE WHICH HONDA RECOMMENDS AND THEN I LOST IT. I REALIZED I WAS BEING PLAYED AND I TOOK IT TO INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHICH BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION. I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO CONTACT AMERICAN HONDA OVER THE PHONE AND THEY DO NOT ANSWER ANY CALLS. THE NUMBER RINGS 3 TIMES THEN PLAYS SOME MUSIC AND THEN ENDS THE CALL. I ALSO SENT THEM AN EMAIL WHICH CAUSED MR MARIO REPRESENTING AMERICAN HONDA, TO CALL ME. I MISSED HIS CALL AND I CALLED HIM BACK MULTIPLE TIMES BUT HE IS NEVER IN THE OFFICE. CASE REFERENCE: # 11373382

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA PILOT. THE CONTACT STATED THE VEHICLE BURNED A QUART OF OIL EVERY 20 MILES. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE VEHICLE FAILS TO ACCELERATE OF 20 MPH, SMOKE WAS SEEN COMING FROM THE ENGINE COMPART, AS WHEEL AS THE POWER BRAKE ASSIST FAILS. THE CHECK ENGINE WARNING LIGHT WAS ILLUMINATED. THE VEHICLE TO BASNEY HONDA (3820 GRAPE RD, MISHAWAKA, IN 46545) WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH A PISTON RING FAILURE. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED OF THE FAILURE AND CONFIRMED THAT THE VIN WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 161,000.

I CHANGED TIRE ,BUSHING STABILIZER,WHEEL BALANCE ALIGNMENT, CHANGED THE TIE ROD AND CV AXLE BUT THE CAR STILL SHAKING BETWEEN THE SPEED OF 60MPH-70MPH..I DON'T REMEMBER WHEN MY HONDA PILOT 2013 MISFIRED THEN THEY FIXED IT BUT MY TIMING BELT EVERYTHING WAS MAKING SOUND , I SPENT TO MY MECHANIC FRIEND COZ THE DEALER CHARGE ME A PRICE OF 950$ TO DO TIMING BELT SERVICE.

THE CAR IS MAKING THESE HORRIBLE NOISES. THE DEALERSHIP CLAIMS EVERYTHING WAS FIND WHEN THEY SOLD IT TO US. WE TOOK IT BACK A FEW DAYS LATER FOR THEM TO FIX IT AND THEY CLAIMED TO FIX IT BUT NEVER DID. WE HAVE TAKEN IT TO MULTIPLE MECHANICS AND THEY CAN NOT FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS AFTER HAVE IT AT LEAST 3 OR 4 DAYS. IT'S LIKE A VIBRATION/GRINDING NOISE. THE ALIGNMENT IS FINE BUT IT STILL PULLS AND THE STEERING WHEEL IS OFF. IT ALWAYS MAKES A GRINDING NOISE AND THE VIBRATION AND GRINDING STARTS WHEN YOU ARE DRIVING AND IT HITS A CONSTANT SPEED EVEN WHEN YOU DONT USE THE CRUISE CONTROL.