2009 Pontiac G8

ABOVE ABOUT 40 MPH THE STEERING WHEEL HAS A SHAKE AND THE DEALER KEEPS TELLING ME THAT THEY DO NOT FEEL IT, SEEMS LIKE THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THIS IS A WIDESPREAD PROBLEM THAT SEEMS LIKE GM WANTS NOTHING TO DO WITH. THIS IS A LINK TO A 30 PAGE THREAD OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE PROBLEM AND ALMOST EVERY PERSON THAT IS HAVING THE ISSUE HAS NOT BEEN RESOLVED. THIS IS CURRENTLY AN ANNOYANCE BUT IT MAY BE A SIGN OF A FAILING STEERING / SUSPENSION PART. HTTP://WWW.G8BOARD.COM/FORUMS/SHOWTHREAD.PHP?T=46325. *TR

PURCHASED VEHICLE NEW ON 2/28/2009 FROM LOCAL GM DEALER. MULTIPLE FAILURES OF GM PART #92207874. OTHER FAILURES OCCURRED ON 8/11/10 (23,629); 10/27/10 (26,082); AND, 7/22/11 (35,300). COMMUNICATED MY CONCERNS ABOUT MULTIPLE FAILURES, OTHER CAUSES, AND POSSIBLE LATENT DEFECT IN DESIGN TO GM CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM AS EARLY AS OCTOBER 2010 (GM CASE #71-884084012) AND AGAIN IN AUGUST 2011 (GM CASE #71-979563998). FAILURE OF PART PRECLUDES OPERATOR ADJUSTMENT OF SEAT WHILE CAR DOOR IS CLOSED AND IF LEFT UNADDRESSED WILL LIKELY CAUSE CHAFFING OF THE UNDER SEAT WIRING HARNESS, SHORTING OUT THE ELECTRICAL SYSTEM. ON SEPTEMBER 2, 2011 GM CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM STATES "GM DOES NOT SEE THIS AS A MANUFACTURER'S CONCERN, THE SEAT IS DESIGNED PROPERLY FOR DAILY USE, AND IS OUTSIDE GM FACTORS OF CONTROL." ALL REPLACEMENTS HAVE BEEN COVERED UNDER 3YR/36K MILE WARRANTY, BUT NO CORRECTION HAS BEEN MADE TO PRECLUDE FUTURE FAILURES. SIMILAR FAILURE OF OTHER G8 OWNERS IS EVIDENT ON INTERNET FORUM WEB BOARDS SUCH AS: HTTP://WWW.G8BOARD.COM/FORUMS/SHOWTHREAD.PHP?T=23189 HTTP://WWW.G8BOARD.COM/FORUMS/SHOWTHREAD.PHP?T=30721 CURRENTLY NEW CAR WARRANTY HAS EXPIRED AND PART IS NOW COVERED BY ONLY 12M/12K MILE "REPAIR" WARRANTY. GIVEN HISTORY OF FAILURES OF THIS PART I EXPECT OTHER FAILURES TO CONTINUE TO OCCUR. ALSO FILED SAME COMPLAINT WITH TEXAS STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND TEXAS MOTOR VEHICLE BOARD ON THIS SAME DATE.

VEHICLE WILL SUDDENLY THROW ABS/TRACTION CONTROL/BRAKE SYSTEM/AIRBAGS FAILURE NOTICES; VEHICLE THEN GOES INTO LIMP MODE AND THE TRANSMISSION LOCKS INTO FIRST GEAR. HAS OCCURRED 3 TIMES, DEALERSHIP UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE OR REPAIR. THEY HAVE CLEARED ALL MIL/DTC CODES AND RE-FLASHED ECM 3 TIMES. THE PROBLEM HAS OCCURRED ONCE ON THE INTERSTATE IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AT 70MPH AND TWICE ON CITY STREETS IN RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, WITH SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR ACCIDENT/CRASH. WHEN THE VEHICLE EXHIBITS THIS CONDITION, LOSS OF CONTROL OCCURS, AS ENGINE DELIVERS NO POWER TO TRANSMISSION AND CAR IS LIMITED TO 25MPH MAXIMUM SPEED. *TR

VEHICLE WILL SUDDENLY THROW ABS/TRACTION CONTROL/BRAKE SYSTEM/AIRBAGS FAILURE NOTICES; VEHICLE THEN GOES INTO LIMP MODE AND THE TRANSMISSION LOCKS INTO FIRST GEAR. HAS OCCURRED 3 TIMES, DEALERSHIP UNABLE TO DIAGNOSE OR REPAIR. THEY HAVE CLEARED ALL MIL/DTC CODES AND RE-FLASHED ECM 3 TIMES. THE PROBLEM HAS OCCURRED ONCE ON THE INTERSTATE IN HEAVY TRAFFIC AT 70MPH AND TWICE ON CITY STREETS IN RUSH HOUR TRAFFIC, WITH SIGNIFICANT CHANCE FOR ACCIDENT/CRASH. WHEN THE VEHICLE EXHIBITS THIS CONDITION, LOSS OF CONTROL OCCURS, AS ENGINE DELIVERS NO POWER TO TRANSMISSION AND CAR IS LIMITED TO 25MPH MAXIMUM SPEED. *TR

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS 2009 PONTIAC G8. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING BETWEEN 50-70 MPH THE STEERING WHEEL WOULD VIBRATE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER WHERE THE WHEELS WERE REALIGNED. THE CONTACT WAS ALSO INFORMED THAT THE FACTORY WHEELS WERE NEVER CORRECTLY ALIGNED, CAUSING THE TREAD ON THE TIRES TO RAPIDLY WEAR. THE FAILURE CONTINUED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE AUTHORIZED DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS ADVISED TO REPLACE THE WHEELS. THE WHEELS WERE REPLACED, BUT THE FAILURE CONTINUED. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN BACK TO THE AUTHORIZED DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS ADVISED TO REPLACE WHEELS AND TIRES. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 25,000.

SEAT OCCUPANCY SENSOR DOES NOT WORK PROPERLY. WHEN MY WIFE SITS IN THE PASSENGER SEAT (WEIGHT 125LBS) THE AIRBAG DOES NOT TURN ON. I TOOK THE VEHICLE INTO THE DEALERSHIP AND THE SERVICE ADVISOR SAID IT WAS IN NORMAL TOLERANCES AND IT COULD BE THE WAY SHE IS POSITIONED IN THE SEAT. THE LOANER CAR I WAS DRIVING (2011 CADILLAC DTS) THE AIR BAG INDICATOR CAME ON AND STAYED ON THE ENTIRE TIME SHE WAS SITTING IN THE PASSENGER SEAT. I BELIEVE THIS IS A HUGE SAFETY LIABILITY. I HAVE BEEN ON THE PONTIAC G8 FORUM WEBSITE AND OTHER OWNERS HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE SAME THING. *TR

DRIVING UP A ROAD AND THE SEAT BELT STUCK AND STARTED TO PULL IN TIGHTER AND TIGHTER WHERE IT LEFT MARKS ACROSS DAUGHTERS BODY. CALLED ONSTAR, TURNED CAR OFF, CALLED 911 AND SEATBELTS WOULDN'T RELEASE TO UNDO SO WE CUT THE SEAT BELT TO GET HER OUT. IT HAPPENED ONCE, AND TWO DAYS LATER THE FRONT TIGHTENED ON ME AND NEVER TOUCHED BRAKE TO MAKE IT DO THAT. WORKING WITH PONTIAC TO REPLACE BELTS IN CAR 2 MONTHS LATER. TAKING FOREVER TO DO. *TR

IN APRIL 2009 MY PONTIAC G8 BEGAN MAKING GROANING AND CRACKING NOISES. OBSERVATION INDICATE THAT NOISE IS COMING FROM THE FRONT OF THE CAR AND IS MOST PREVALENT WHEN THE CAR IS WARM. RESEARCH ON THE NUMEROUS WEBSITES INDICATE THAT THIS IS NOT AN UNCOMMON PROBLEM. UNFORTUNATELY, THE DEALERS DON'T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND THE SEVERITY OF THE PROBLEM AND THE POTENTIAL SAFETY IMPACT OF LOSING CONTROL OF THE AUTOMOBILE. SO FAR THE MOST COMMON RESPONSE SEEMS TO BE TO IGNORE IT OR PROVIDE A PIECE MEAL SOLUTION. I BELIEVE IT IS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE STEERING IS EFFECTED AND AN ACCIDENT OCCURS. IT SEEMS THE GT MODELS ARE MOST EFFECTED WITH NO MENTION OF THE V6 OR THE GXP EDITIONS HAVING PROBLEMS. THE GXP HAS IMPROVED FRONT SUSPENSION AND THE V6 IS LIGHTER. IT MAY BE THAT THE G8 GT VERSION HAS A ENGINE THAT IS TOO HEAVY FOR THE FRONT SUSPENSION AND ULTIMATELY CAUSES A DEGRADATION OF THE SUSPENSIONS PERFORMANCE. I HAVE HAD THE CAR INTO THE DEALER THREE DIFFERENT TIMES AND SO FAR THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE DONE IS REPLACE A TIE ROD. THE NOISE ABATED BUT NOW CONTINUES. SO FAR THERE HAVE BEEN NO SAFETY CONSEQUENCES BECAUSE I TEND TO BABY THE CAR BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST THE FRONT SUSPENSION. *TR

MY 2009 PONTIAC G8GT WITH 14,000 MILES HAS HAD A FRONT END SHAKE IN IT SINCE NEW. HAVE HAD IT BACK TO THE DEALER 8 TIMES TO HAVE IT FIXED TO NO AVAIL. HE CAR HAS STARTED TO WANDER BACK AND FORTH WHILE DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY SO I DECIDED TODAY I WAS INSPECTING IT TO SEE IF I COULD FIND ANYTHING. THE LAST TIME I HAD IT TO THE DEALER I TOLD THEM I COULD HER THE FRONT STRUT BUSHINGS GOING BAD THIS WAS ABOUT 1000 MILES AGO. TODAY DURING MY INSPECTION I FOUND THAT BOTH FRONT STRUT BUSHINGS ARE BAD. I WAS CHECKING A COUPLE OF FORUM BOARDS TODAY AND THIS SEEMS TO BE A VERY COMMON PROBLEM FOR THIS CAR AND PONTIAC AN GM ARE WELL AWARE OF IT. WHY HAVEN'T THEY ARE ANYBODY MADE GM STEP UP AND FIX THIS BEFORE SOMEBODY GET HURT OR KILLED? *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2009 PONTIAC G8. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE HEADLIGHTS WERE DIFFICULT TO REACH AND CHANGE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALERSHIP WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE BUMPER AND HEADLIGHT FIXTURES WOULD HAVE TO BE TAKEN OFF TO GET TO THE BELT. THE CONTACT BELIEVED THE PROBLEM WAS A SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE THE CHANGE COULD NOT BE PERFORMED BY THE OWNER OF THE VEHICLE. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE APPROXIMATELY 12,000.