2014 Honda Odyssey

RECALLS NUMBER 17V-725 AND 18V-170 APPEAR TO BE SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUES FOR PASSENGERS IN THE 2ND ROW SEATS, AND THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A MANUFACTURER SOLUTION. FOR THE 17V-725 RECALL, IT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR OVER A YEAR WITHOUT A SOLUTION OFFERED BY THE MANUFACTURER. WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG AND WHY HASN'T NHSTA NOT TAKEN STRONGER ACTION TO COMPEL HONDA TO FIX THE PROBLEM? THIS IS WHY YOU EXIST, TO KEEP CONSUMERS SAFE BEFORE A SAFETY INCIDENT OCCURS. PLEASE ADDRESS THIS WITH HONDA TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

WHEN DRIVING BETWEEN 20-30MPH, MY VEHICLE CONVULSES DURING A GEAR SHIFT, EVERY TIME I SWITCH FROM 2ND TO 3RD GEAR. CURRENT VEHICLE SERVICE BULLETIN EXISTS. 17-044 AND 17-043 ISSUED ON 2-28-2018. NO WARRANTY OFFERED AFTER 60,000 MILES. I'M CURRENTLY AT 67, 700. NO ASSISTANCE BEING OFFERED BY HONDA OR AUTHORIZED DEALER. IF SERVICE BULLETIN DOES NOT GOOD THE ISSUE, HONDA RECOMMENDS TRANSMISSION REPLACEMENT!! AS A CONSUMER, I FEEL THIS IS A SAFETY CONCERN WITH SUCH LOW MILEAGE AND FEEL HONDA IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPAIRS, NOT THE CONSUMER. TO ISSUE A TSV MEANS THEY KNOW THIS IS A KNOWN ISSUE IN MULTIPLE VEHICLES.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V725000 (SEATS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED PAGE HONDA OF BLOOMFIELD AT (248) 333-3200 (1819 S TELEGRAPH RD, BLOOMFIELD HILLS, MI 48302) WHERE IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

COMING DOWN MCDONALDS PASS, THE VAN WAS GOING FASTER THAN I WANTED, 50 OR 60 MILES PER HOUR SO I TAPPED THE BRAKES TO SLOW DOWN ON CLEAR BLACKTOP, NO ICE. WHEN I DID,THE FRONT END WHEELS SHIMMIED EACH TIME I TAPPED THE BREAKS. IT SCARED ME, BECAUSE IF IT HAD BEEN ICY, I COULD NOT HAVE SLOWED DOWN AT AN APPROPRIATE SPEED TO GET TO A SAFER SPEED. I WAS ABLE TO EVENTUALLY SLOW DOWN, BUT THE FRONT END KEPT SHIMMYING EACH TIME I TAPPED THE BRAKES GOING DOWN THE STEEP HILL AND THERE WERE CURVES IN THE ROAD AS WELL.

NOVEMBER 2017 NEWS REPORTS DESCRIBED A SAFETY RECALL OF CERTAIN MODEL YEARS OF HONDA ODYSSEY VAN SECOND ROW SEATING. THIS WAS DUE TO SEATS NOT BEING SECURE IN SUDDEN STOP OR IMPACT. SINCE THAT TIME, NOW 4 MONTHS, SEVERAL DEALERSHIP CLAIM NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN THE RECALL REPAIRS WILL BE HONORED AND REFER CALLERS TO HONDA AMERICA. HONDA AMERICA REFERS ALL CALLS TO DEALERS AND STATES THIS IS "NOT REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE" BUT A MATTER OF OPERATOR ERROR. I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IF THE SEAT LATCH SYSTEM CAN BE INSTALLED/OPERATED IMPROPERLY THEN IT IS IN FACT A SAFETY RELATED DESIGN DEFECT WHICH A CORPORATION THE SIZE OF HONDA COULD HAVE REPAIRED BY NOW, IF THEY WERE NOT DENYING THE PROBLEM! CAN DOT ENFORCE AN EXISTING FEDERAL RECALL?

CAR JERKS VIOLENTLY DURING MILD ACCELERATION, WHEN THE TRANSMISSION SHIFTS BETWEEN FIRST AND SECOND SPEEDS. THIS CAN OCCUR RIGHT AFTER STARTUP OR CAN START AFTER THE CAR HAS BEEN RUNNING AND THE CAR SLOWS DOWN TO FIRST GEAR. IT CONTINUES UNTIL THE IGNITION IS TURNED OFF. THE PROBLEM DISSAPPEARS WHEN IGNITION IS TURNED OFF. IT OCCURS VERY RANDOMLY, I.E., INTERVALS OF WEEKS OR EVEN MONTHS. IT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO HAVE IT OCCUR AT THE DEALER SERVICE DEPT., AND IT DOES NOT GIVE A COMPUTER CODE. THE DEALER CHECKED THE TRANSMISSION AND COULD NOT FIND THE CAUSE.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V725000 (SEATS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AS THE RECALL NOTICE WAS RECEIVED OVER THREE MONTHS AGO. THE DEALER (MIKE PATTON HONDA, 1406 LAFAYETTE PKWY, LAGRANGE, GA 30241) WAS CONTACTED AND CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.

THIS IS THE 2ND RECALL I'VE HAD ON MY CAR WITHIN A YEAR ALL HAVING TO DO WITH THE 2ND ROW SEATS NOT LATCHING PROPERLY. THE LADY ON THE PHONE JUST TOLD ME THAT IF I BRAKE TOO HARD THE SEAT COULD POSSIBLY COME UNLATCHED. I HAVE A CHILD AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT HONDA ISN'T DOING ANYTHING EXCEPT WAITING FOR PARTS TO COME IN AND NOT SELLING THEIR NEW VANS UNTIL THESE PARTS COME IN. I DON'T FEEL THAT IS ENOUGH. HOW CAN HONDA ALLOW PEOPLE WHO OWN THESE VEHICLES TO STILL BE DRIVING THEM UNTIL THEY HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM. IF I BRAKE HARD AND THE SEAT COMES UNLATCHED FROM THE FLOOR BOARD, WHICH IS WHAT THE LADY TOLD ME, THAT IS SUPER UNSAFE AND HONDA SHOULD BE DOING MORE ABOUT THIS PROBLEM, EVEN WORSE IF SOMEONE IS TO RUN INTO YOU OR REAR-END YOU. THE CHILD OR ADULT, WHOMEVER, WILL PROBABLY DIE IF THE SEAT UNLATCHES FROM THE FLOORBOARD. AND BETTER YET, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE THE PARTS IN TO FIX THE PROBLEM.