2013 Honda Odyssey

WHILE REDUCING SPEED WITH BRAKE, STEERING SHAKING BADLY. IT HAPPENS ESPECIALLY WHEN REDUCING SPEED BY BRAKING FROM HIGHWAY SPEED LIKE 5,60MPH OR HIGHER. THIS FEELS ME DANGEROUS ESPECIALLY BRAKING WHILE NOT IN STRAIGHT ROAD. ESPECIALLY SUDDENLY REACHING TO THE END OF TRAFFIC JAM IN CURVED ROAD, HARD TO CONTROL DRIVING ALONG THE CURVE WITH SUCH STEERING SHAKING. THIS SHAKE IS THAT MUCH BAD. I RESEARCHED ONLINE AND MANY PEOPLE CLAIMING ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF THIS MAKE OF THIS MODEL BUT HOW THE DEALER DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE IS DIFFERENT DEPENDS ON DEALER.

FRONT END BEGAN TO SHAKE ON BRAKING, MORE NOTICEABLE AT HIGHER SPEEDS AND GOING DOWNHILL, VERY DANGEROUS CONDITION, DEALER SAID IT WAS WARPED BRAKE ROTORS AND THE ALIGNMENT WAS OFF, ROTORS WERE GROUND CAR WAS ALIGNED TO FIX PROBLEM EVEN THOUGH IT WAS ALMOST NEW AND ONE OF THE MORE EXPENSIVE MODELS, AFTER 12000 MORE MILES THE SAME PROBLEMS HAVE REOCCURRED , AGAIN NO SYMPATHY FROM THE DEALER, HE BLAMED IT ON NORMAL WEAR AND POTHOLES.

I PLACED THE VAN IN PARK AND LEFT IT RUNNING AT THE TOP OF A DRIVEWAY WALKED ABOUT 40-60FT AND ABOUT 3 MINUTES LATER IT COMES ROLLING DOWN THE DRIVEWAY AND HITS THE CORNER OF HOUSE AND ME. BOUNCES BACK 23 FEET AND STOPS. GEAR SHIFT IS STILL IN PARK AND CAR IS RUNNING. AIR BAG INFLATES AND ALARM GOES OFF. TURNED OFF ENGINE AND REMOVED KEY.

1ST SERVICE SINCE NEW (7500 MI)OIL, TIRE ROTATION. IMMEDIATELY NOTICED SHIMMY UPON BRAKING. RETURNED TO DEALER AFTER 2 MONTHS. DIAGNOSIS: WARPED ROTORS. TURNED. PROBLEM SOLVED. QUESTIONED AS TO WHY, THEY STATED WATER PUDDLE, AGRESSIVE DRIVING, ETC. NO MENTION OF A PROBLEM WITH THE ROTOR HEAT DISSIPATION. ALL WAS FINE UNTIL RECENTLY, ABOUT 30,00 MI. NOW SAME PROBLEM. SHOULD THIS PROBLEM WORSTEN, AND IT WILL, CONTROLING A VEHICLE ON A LONG MOUNTAIN HILL WILL BE DISASTROUS. THIS IS A KNOWN PROBLEM DOCUMENTED BY NUMEROUS PEOPLE ON FORUMS ON THE INTERNET, AS FAR BACK TO AT LEAST 2006. WHY HASN'T THIS DEFECT BEEN ADDRESSED. I'M CALLING HONDA AMERICA TODAY, AS IF IT WILL DO ANY GOOD. I HAVE ONE HONDA CIVIC IN MY DRIVEWAY NOW THAT HAS 136,000 MI. ON IT AND THE PADS HAVE NEVER BEEN REPLACED. DEALER SAID PADS ARE GOOD. 136,000 MILES. MUCH LESS THE BRAKE ROTORS. NO I'M NOT HARD ON THE BRAKES AS THE DEALER INSINUATED.

I HAVE OWNED SIX HONDA ODYSSEY'S AND THE LAST THREE STARTING WITH THE 2007 MODEL ALL NEEDED TO HAVE A NEW POWER STEERING PUMP BECAUSE IT STARTS TO WHINE AND NOT PUMP WELL. PREVIOUS MODELS HAVE ALL FAILED UNDER WARRANTY. I CURRENTLY HAVE A 2013 ODYSSEY THAT HAS 41000 MILES ON IT AND ONCE AGAIN THE PUMP STARTED E STEERING HAS GIVEN OUT TWICE IN THE LAST WEEK. IT IS RANDOM AND WITHOUT WARNING ALL OF A SUDDEN I CAN'T STEER WITHOUT GREAT EFFORT. I ABOUT GOT HIT THE FIRST TIME AS I WAS TURNING AROUND ON A MAIN ROAD AND THE STEERING JUST QUIT, NO POWER STEER AT ALL. IT USUALLY RECOVERS QUICKLY BUT IF I WERE NOT AN EXPERIENCED DRIVER I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN TWO ACCIDENTS BECAUSE OF THIS PROBLEM ALREADY. HONDA WILL NOT REPLACE THEIR KNOWN DEFECTIVE PUMP UNDER WARRANTY BECAUSE THE CAR HAS OVER 36K MILES. I THINK HONDA SHOULD REPLACE THE DEFECTIVE PUMP UNDER WARRANTY AS THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE FOR THEM AND I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD TWO OF THESE VEHICLES SINCE 2007 THAT HAVE HAD A BAD PUMP. THIS IS A SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUE AND PERHAPS HONDA NEEDS SOME GOVERNMENT HELP TO BE FORCED TO DEAL WITH THIS ISSUE THAT CONTINUES TO PLAGUE THEIR VEHICLES WITH A DANGEROUS SITUATION THAT NEEDS CORPORATE ACTION TO REMEDY. *TR

HONDA ODYSSEY 2013 TOURING WITH 22K MILEAGE BRAKES WARPED. HEAVY VIBRATION UNSAFE WHEN BRAKING AT HIGH SPEEDS 60+ MPH. VIBRATION WHEN BRAKING AT LOWER SPEEDS. VEHICLE IS STILL NEW UNDER B2B 36/3 WARRANTY. LARGE NUMBER OF OTHER CONSUMERS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SAME ISSUE. HONDA APPEARS TO HAVE A BRAKE DESIGN FLAW. SUBMITTING COMPLAINT IN ORDER TO SUPPORT HONDA RECALL ON BRAKE ISSUES. VIBRATION STARTED AROUND 10K MILES HAS PROGRESSIVELY GOTTEN WORSE. VERY UNSAFE VIBRATION AT HIGHWAY SPEEDS. THIS IS A TRUE SAFETY ISSUE AND SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO BY THE NHTSA DOT. HTTP://WWW.ODYCLUB.COM/FORUMS/54-2011-ODYSSEY/150734-DOES-ANYBODY-HAVE-ISSUES-FRONT-BRAKE-ROTORS-6.HTML. *TR

THE PROBLEM THAT I AM REPORTING IS THAT TWO OF MY KEYS RECENTLY SPONTANEOUSLY DEPROGRAMMED THEMSELVES. FORTUNATELY NEITHER KEY WAS RUNNING MY IGNITION AT THE TIME OF FAILURE. I TOOK MY KEYS TO MY LOCAL SERVICE DEPARTMENT AND HAD THEM REPROGRAMMED. TO BE CLEAR: THIS WAS NOT THE RESULT OF A BATTERY FAILURE, AS THE PROBLEM PERSISTED EVEN AFTER BATTERY REPLACEMENTS. I ASKED MY DEALERSHIP'S SERVICE DEPARTMENT FOR AN EXPLANATION OF THIS INCIDENT AND RECEIVED NONE WHATSOEVER. I THEN CONTACTED AMERICAN HONDA AND STILL RECEIVED NO EXPLANATION. TO BE CLEAR: ONE OF THE KEYS THUS AFFECTED, A MASTER KEY, HAD ALWAYS BEEN STORED IN A LINGERIE DRESSER DRAWER, AND I MENTION "LINGERIE" TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT NO MAGNETS OR OTHER POTENTIALLY DAMAGING ITEMS WERE STORED WITH OR NEAR THE KEY, AND THAT IT WAS IN A CLEAN, DRY PLACE. THE KEY HAD NEVER BEEN USED EXCEPT WHEN I TESTED IT RIGHT AFTER RECEIVING IT FROM THE DEALERSHIP. (I ONLY FIGURED OUT THAT IT WASN'T WORKING WHEN I MISPLACED THE KEY THAT I USUALLY USED AND NEEDED A TEMPORARY REPLACEMENT.) THE OTHER KEY AFFECTED, MY VALET KEY, WAS ALWAYS WITH ME ON MY KEYCHAIN. IT STRIKES ME AS VERY IMPROBABLE, IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT TWO SUCH DIFFERENT KEYS SHOULD ARBITRARILY FAIL UNDER SUCH DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES. WHAT ARE THE ODDS? WHAT CONCERNS ME IS THIS: WHEN THE KEYS FAIL, THEY IMMOBILIZE THE ENGINE. I REQUESTED THAT AMERICAN HONDA AT LEAST ADMINISTER A QUESTIONNAIRE TO DEALERSHIPS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEIR SERVICE DEPARTMENTS ARE SEEING THIS HAPPEN TO OTHER HONDA OWNERS, BUT AS FAR AS I CAN TELL THIS INCIDENT IS BEING SUMMARILY DISMISSED. GIVEN THE TRAGEDIES THAT OCCURRED WHEN GM IGNITIONS TURNED OFF UNEXPECTEDLY DURING TRAVEL, RELYING ON A KEY THAT CAN IMMOBILIZE MY IGNITION AT WILL IS UNSETTLING, TO SAY THE LEAST. I WOULD DEEPLY APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEONE COULD LOOK INTO THIS INCIDENT. *TR

WHEN DRIVING - OUR TRACTION CONTROL AND ENGINE LIGHT HAS COME ON SEVERAL TIMES AND THE ENGINE HAS BEEN SO ROUGH THAT WE HAD TO STOP AND LET IT COOL DOWN BEFORE TAKING IT IMMEDIATELY HOME. THE FIRST TIME WE TOOK IT IN - WE WERE TOLD THAT "SOMETHING" (DIRT) MAY HAVE GOTTEN INTO THE PISTON CHAMBER AND CAUSED A MISFIRE OF THE SPARK PLUGS, BUT THAT WE SHOULD BE OK. THEN IT HAPPENED AGAIN AND AGAIN, BUT BECOMING MORE FREQUENT BETWEEN RESETTING THE CODES. WE WERE TOLD JUST TO REPLACE SPARK PLUGS 1 & 2. THEN AS WE WERE HAGGLING WITH HONDA OVER THE PHONE ABOUT WARRANTY COVERAGE AND THE FACT THAT THE LIGHT WAS CONTINUING TO COME ON - IT HAPPENED AGAIN BUT WORSE: THE ENGINE LIGHT WAS FLASHING AND IT WAS SOUNDING WORSE, SO WE DID NOT DRIVE IT UNTIL WE COULD GET IT SERVICED. WHEN IN THE SHOP THIS TIME - WE WERE TOLD AFTER THE DIAGNOSTIC THAT THE VAN NEEDED A NEW SHORT BLOCK DUE TO FAULTY PISTONS/PISTON RINGS AND IT WAS COVERED UNDER A RECALL/WARRANTY. THEN, AFTER WE LEFT THE VEHICLE AT THE DEALER FOR A WEEK WAITING FOR THEM TO GET THE PARTS AND FIX IT - WE CALLED TO PICK IT UP. BUT THIS TIME - THEY SAID WE WERE NOT COVERED, AND ALL THEY WOULD DO IS REPLACE THE SPARK PLUGS 1 THROUGH 4 - UNDER WARRANTY. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2013 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE DRIVING 5 MPH, THE PASSENGER SIDE AIRBAGS DEPLOYED INADVERTENTLY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER, WHERE IT WAS DIAGNOSED THAT THE AIR BAG MAY HAVE DEPLOYED DUE TO A PREVIOUS CRASH THE VEHICLE WAS INVOLVED IN. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 12,060.