2002 Toyota RAV4

THERE EXISTS A DOCUMENTED HISTORY OF ECM FAILURE IN THE 2002 TOYOTA RAV4 VEHICLES THAT IS CAUSING SHIFTING PROBLEMS IN THE TRANSMISSION. THIS DEFECTED PART NEEDS TO BE RECALLED AS NEEDING REPLACEMENT (NOT JUST "REPROGRAMMING" AS TOYOTA HAS TRIED TO DO). WHEN I BEGAN EXPERIENCING THESE PROBLEMS WITH MY 2002 TOYOTA RAV4 ON APRIL 17, 2009, I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC AND NO MATTER HOW HARD I PRESSED ON THE ACCELERATOR, MY CAR WOULD NOT GO. IT EVENTUALLY VERY SLOWLY BEGAN TO ACCELERATE BUT EVERY TIME I HAD TO STOP AT A LIGHT OR STOP SIGN, IT WOULD BARELY GO AGAIN. I WAS TERRIFIED THAT I WAS GOING TO GET HIT EVERY TIME I HAD TO CROSS OVER A STREET WITH ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION...SOMEONE IS GOING TO GET IN A SERIOUS ACCIDENT ONE OF THESE DAYS BECAUSE THERE IS NO WARNING WHEN THIS BEGINS TO HAPPEN - THE CAR JUST WON'T GO AT TAKEOFF. MANY OF US WHO OWN THE 2002 RAV4 HAVE WASTED HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS ON MISDIAGNOSIS OF THIS PROBLEM...I HAD THE TRANSMISSION FLUID FLUSHED, I HAD A TOP ENGINE CLEANING TO REMOVE BUILDUP IN THE THROTTLE, I WAS EVEN TOLD AT THE DEALERSHIP THAT MY CAR MAT WAS GETTING IN THE WAY OF THE ACCELERATOR AND THAT WAS ADDING TO THE PROBLEM. ONLY AFTER NONE OF THIS FIXED THE PROBLEM DID THEY COME BACK AND FINALLY SAY THAT THE ECM NEEDED TO BE REPLACED OR THE TRANSMISSION WOULD BE RUINED. THIS REPAIR IS GOING TO COST ME $1300.00 BECAUSE THE WARRANTY RAN OUT AT 80,000 MILES AND MY VEHICLE IS AT 84,000 MILES. I AM GOING TO FIX THIS CAR SO THAT I CAN TRADE IT IN (THE DEALERSHIP EVEN SUGGESTED THAT I TRADE IT- THEY MUST KNOW HOW SERIOUS THIS IS). I CAN'T TAKE THE RISK THAT THIS VEHICLE WILL BE SAFE TO DRIVE EVEN AFTER THE ECM IS REPLACED BECAUSE I'VE READ THAT THE NEW ECM MAY NOT COMMUNICATE CORRECTLY WITH THE OLD TRANSMISSION. THIS IS A DEVASTATING LOSS FOR THOSE OF US WHO BOUGHT OUR VEHICLES BASED IN LARGE PART ON THE TOYOTA REPUTATION FOR RELIABILITY. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2002 TOYOTA RAV4. ON APRIL 22, 2009, THE DRIVER ATTEMPTED TO SHIFT INTO DRIVE; HOWEVER, IT FAILED TO ENGAGE UNTIL IT REACHED 3000 RPMS. IN ADDITION, WHEN THE BRAKES WERE ENGAGED THE VEHICLE STALLED; ALTHOUGH, THE FAILURE OCCURRED INTERMITTENTLY. A MECHANIC STATED THAT THE TRANSMISSION NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. THE CONTACT IS AWARE OF THE SAFETY RISK. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 128,000.

AUTO TRANSMISSION PROBLEM, WHERE THE CAR SHUDDERS AND SHIFTS VERY ABRUPTLY AND OFTEN SHIFTS VERY LATE POSING VERY DANGEROUS TO DRIVE. THIS PROBLEM CAME ON INSTANTANEOUSLY WITHOUT ANY FOREWARNING , SO AS I STARTED RESEARCHING IT, THE PROBLEM APPEARS TO BE AN ECU MALFUNCTION WHERE THE COMPUTER DOESN'T SEND THE RIGHT COMMANDS TO THE TRANSMISSION FOR WHEN TO SHIFT PROPERLY. THIS CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS AND IT IS VERY UPSETTING THAT TOYOTA DIDN'T AT LEAST INFORM RAV4 OWNERS OF THIS ISSUE. I COULD HAVE REPLACED THE ECU AND WHICH IS AN EASY REPAIR COSTING ONLY ABOUT $1200 OR THERE IS ALSO A SHOP ONLINE THAT FIXES THE ECU FOR $400 BUT NOW I HAVE TO FIX THE ECU AND REPLACE A TRANSMISSION THANKS TO TOYOTA'S NEGLIGENCE NOW THE REPAIR BILL IS IN THE $4000-$6000 PRICE RANGE. MANY INDEPENDENT MECHANICS AREN'T AWARE OF THE ISSUE AND HAVE REPLACED THE TRANSMISSION WITHOUT KNOWING THAT THE ECU IS AT FAULT AND ENDED UP REPLACING THE TRANSMISSION AGAIN AND AGAIN UNTIL FINALLY PINPOINTING THE PROBLEM AND REPLACING THE ECU ALSO. THE SAME NEARLY HAPPENED TO ME WHEN I TOOK IT TO BOTH OF MY MECHANICS AND THEY DIDN'T FORESEE THE ECU TO BE AT FAULT AND WANTED TO REPLACE ONLY THE TRANSMISSION. WE'VE OWNED THE CAR SINCE DAY 1 AND IT HAS BEEN METICULOUSLY MAINTAINED IT'S SAD TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO IT WITHOUT ANY WARNING. *TR

MY TOYOTA RAV4 2002 SEEMS TO HAVE A TRANSMISSION PROBLEM. I HAVE NOTICED 2-3 TIMES A DIFFICULTY IN SHIFTING FROM REVERSE TO 1ST GEAR. HOWEVER, ON THE DAY OF THIS INCIDENT, I WAS DRIVING IN TRAFFIC AT ABOUT 20 MPH. I TRIED TO ACCELERATE TO KEEP UP WITH TRAFFIC AND MY CAR WOULD NOT- IT STARTED TO SHUTTER. I HAVE READ ONLINE THAT MANY OTHERS HAVE THIS PROBLEM AND IT IS A DEFECT WITH TOYOTA RAV4S MADE IN THAT YEAR. I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE THIS FIXED, AND THAT WAS A DANGEROUS SITUATION TO BE IN WHEN I AM IN TRAFFIC. *TR

TOYOTA RAV4 STARTED SLAMMING INTO GEAR. WHILE DRIVING I WOULD HAVE MY FOOT DOWN ON ACCELERATOR AND THE VEHICLE WOULDN'T GO INTO GEAR AND WHEN IT FINALLY DID IT WOULD LURCH FORWARD WHILE SLAMMING IN GEAR. I WAS TOLD BY MY MAINTENANCE MECHANIC THAT THERE WAS A TBS ON THIS VERY PROBLEM HOWEVER WHEN I TOOK IT TO THE DEALERSHIP THEY TOLD ME 1ST. "SOMEONE ALREADY REPLACE IT (WHICH WASN'T THE CASE THEN 2. "IT MUST HAVE BEEN CAUGHT AT THE FACTORY". THERE ARE OVER 200 COMPLAINTS REGARDING THE VERY PROBLEM AND TOYOTA'S IRRESPONSIBLE RESPONSE TO THE PROBLEM. I HAVE NOW BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL "START WITH REPLACING THE GROUNDING WIRES" AND "GO FROM THERE". I HAVE AN EXTENDED WARRANTY THAT EXPIRES IN JULY 2009. THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE AND I FEEL THAT TOYOTA (BASED ON ALL THE COMPLAINTS FOUND) WILL CONTINUE TO NICKEL AND DIME ME WITH NON-WARRANTY CHARGES AND THEN WHEN THE REAL PROBLEM IS ADDRESSED FOR THE POWER TRAIN MY VEHICLE WILL BE OUT OF WARRANTY. I AM THE ORIGINAL OWNER AND MY VEHICLE ONLY HAS 47,315 MILES ON IT. THE REFERENCE NUMBER FOR THE TSB IN THIS CASE IS TC002-06 FROM 3-06/ THE DEALERSHIPS I SPOKE TO WERE UNAWARE OF THE TBS UNTIL I BROUGHT IN A COPY OF IT. THE CODES FOR THIS PROBLEM DON'T EVEN SHOW UP. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT NHTSA IS LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD THIS PROBLEM TO ESTABLISH A NEED FOR AN INVESTIGATION. PLEASE CONSIDER ME AS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I TRULY FEEL THIS PROBLEM IS NOT ONLY A COSTLY ONE BUT A EXTREME SAFETY CONCERN AS YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN THIS PROBLEM WILL HAPPEN. *TR

CAR SHUTTERED AND STOPPED ROLLING IN AN INTERSECTION, THEN ABRUPTLY WENT INTO GEAR AGAIN WITH A LURCH. TRANSMISSION SHOP REPLACED VALVE ASSEMBLY. PROBLEM RETURNED AND CAR WAS RETURNED TO SHOP. NEW VALVE ASSEMBLY INSTALLED, PROBLEM CAME BACK. RETURNED TO SHOP, TRANSMISSION REMOVED, REPLACED, 3 TIMES. SEALS REPLACED. SAME PROBLEM.ECM WAS SUSPECT. CAR WAS TAKEN TO LOCAL TOYOTA DEALER, WAS TOLD ECM WAS FINE, ECM WAS RE-PROGRAMMED AND WE WERE CHARGED $275.00. PROBLEM CONTINUED. LONG STORY SHORT-ECM WAS REPLACED, PROGRAMMED, AND PAID ANOTHER $1200. WORKS FINE. TOYOTA OWES ME BIG TIME. THEY KNOW OF THIS PROBLEM, AND IGNORE. I HAVE OWNED 5 TOYOTAS IN MY LIFE, AND HAVE AN FJ CRUISER AS WELL. WILL NOT CONSIDER TOYOTA IN THE FUTURE UNLESS THEY ADMIT THE PROBLEM, AND ASSIST IN REPAIRS. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2002 TOYOTA RAV4. THE CONTACT NOTICED THAT THE TRANSMISSION WOULD REPEATEDLY SLIP OUT OF GEAR WITHOUT WARNING. HE TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER AND THEY STATED THAT THE ON-BOARD COMPUTER NEEDED TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE IT WAS DEFECTIVE. THEY FURTHER STATED THAT THE FAILURE WAS COMMON WITH HIS YEAR, MAKE, AND MODEL VEHICLE. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE REPAIR, THE FAILURE RESURFACED AND THE ENGINE WARNING INDICATOR ILLUMINATED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. HE TOOK THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER AND THEY STATED THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPLACE THE TRANSMISSION BECAUSE THE ON-BOARD COMPUTER MECHANICALLY FAILED. AS A RESULT, THE TRANSMISSION FAILED AND WOULD COST $4,000 TO REPLACE. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER DID NOT ASSIST. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 126,605. UPDATED 6/8/09 *CN UPDATED 06/11/09.*JB