2012 Honda Pilot

I AM SO TIRED OF MY FRONT BRAKES SHAKING. I HAVE HAD THE ROTATORS TURNED,OR ROTATED TWICE AND IT KEEPS ON HAPPENING. I BOUGHT THIS CAR BRAND NEW.THE WHOLE CAR SHAKES AND IT IS THE MOST FRUSTRATING AND ANNOYING THING TO DEAL WITH. 98% OF THE TIME WHEN I GO TO BRAKE, MY CAR SHAKES, SHIMMERS, AND JUST SEEMS TO BE UNSAFE. JUST BRAKING AT STOP LIGHTS CAN CHANGE MY MOOD. THIS IS MY SECOND HONDA PILOT AND MY FIRST 2008 PILOT DID NOT DO THIS. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I WILL NOT BUY ANOTHER HONDA PILOT.

WARPED ROTORS DUE TO ISSUES WITH FRONT SUSPENSION REAR LOWER ARM BUSHINGS THAT ARE CURRENTLY LEAKING AND CRACHED. I TOOK MY CAR INTO THE DEALERSHIP SEVERAL TIMES AND WAS NEVER TOLD ABOUT THIS ISSUE, BUT DID COMPLAIN OF VIBRATING, YET NOTHING WAS SAID OR DONE. HAD TO GO TO ANOTHER MECHANIC TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS WRONG. HONDA NEEDS TO COVER THIS ISSUE AS I CAN SEE FROM THE OTHER COMPLAINTS THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH THIS ISSUE. THESE ARE FAULTY PARTS ON A VEHICLE THAT COSTS OVER $30,000.00. THIS IS MY SECOND HONDA PILOT AND I DID NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE WITH THE LAST PILOT. CAR VIOLENTLY SHAKES WHEN BRAKING. IT HOWEVER THE WHOLE FRONT END VIBRATES WHEN DRIVING. NOW MY WINDOW RATTLES AND I BELIEVE IT IS LOOSE BECAUSE I CAN HEAR THE AIR

2012 HONDA PILOT CERTIFIED PRE OWNED PURCHASED FROM HENDRICKS HONDA, BRADENTON, FL. I PURCHASED 1/27/2015. ORIGINAL IN SERVICE 4/19/2012. IN FLORIDA. VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN IN WINTER WEATHER OR ON SALTED ROADS SINCE ORIGINAL IN SERVICE DATE. APPR. 1 WEEK AFTER PURCHASE I BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF USED CAR DEPT. PERSONEL THAT ALL 4 BRAKE ROTORS WERE SHOWING RUST ON ALL NON BRAKING SURFACES. I WAS TOLD THIS WAS NORMAL AND THEY WOULD NOT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. I SUBSEQUENTLY RETURNED WITH VEHICLE TO MY HOME IN MASS. RUST ON ROTORS PROGRESSED TO POINT OF LOOKING LIKE IT WOULD AFFECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROTOR. UPON RRETURNING TO MY HOME IN MASS. I BROUGHT IT TO THE SERVICE DEPT OF ORLEANS AUTO, AS SUBSIDIARY OF THE AUTHORIZED HONDA DEALER; HYANNIS HONDA,AND WAS TOLD THAT HONDA WOULD NOT ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. AUG 4.2015, I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE TO HYANNIS HONDA TO BE INSPECTED BY SERVICE MANAGER; NORMAN LAMARRE, AND SERVICE DIRECTOR, RENE EANSEREAU. BOTH CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS A COMMONLY SEEN PROBLEM ON RECENT HONDA VEHICLES AND A KNOWN HONDA PROBLEM, THEY HAVE DEALT WITH MANY TIMES OVER MANY YEARS AND HAVE HAD MANY COMPLAINTS. HOWEVER AMERICAN HONDA WILL NOT COVER RUST ON ROTORS AS A WARRANTY. THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE AS THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE THAT AMERICAN HONDA IS REFUSING TO ADDRESS. I AM REQUESTING YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THE MATTER. I AM CONVINCED THAT THE THE INTEGRITY OF THESE BRAKE ROTORS IS PRESENTLY COMPROMISED, IN THE COOLING VAN AREA AND THE HUB AREA. I AM REQUESTING YOUR ASSISTANCE IN THE MATTER. UPDATED 10/06/15*LJ *CN

I HAVE BEEN DRIVING MY HONDA PILOT 2012 LX SINCE NOV 2012, THOUGH HAVE BEEN VISITED HONDA ABOUT 03 TIMES FOR BRAKES, THE CURRENT MILES ARE APPROX 37400 MILES AND ALREADY RESURFACED THE FRONT BRAKE ROTORS 2 TIMES, THIS IS DUE TO THE VEHICLE WEIGHT PER HONDA, IT SEEMS THE ISSUE IS WITH ROTORS, EVEN AFTER DRIVING REALLY CONSERVATIVELY THE ROTORS GET UNEVEN REALLY FAST, I SINCERELY BELIEVE THE ROTORS NEED TO BE OF BETTER QUALITY AND HENCE REPLACED BY HONDA. *TR

ON APRIL 30 2014 MY WIFE [XXX] ENTERED THE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL OF PHILADELPHIA CAMPUS IN THE 2012 HONDA PILOT. SHE APPROACHED THE GUARD BOOTH AND CAME TO A COMPLETE STOP. THIS CAN BE VERIFIED AS THE GUARD STOPPED HER AND THEY HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE TO PARK. [XXX] THEN ACCELERATED OUT OF THE GUARD BOOTH WHILE MAKING AN IMMEDIATE LOW SPEED RIGHT TURN DOWN A RAMP INTO A PARKING GARAGE. FROM THIS POINT THE HONDA PILOT CONTINUED TO ACCELERATE DOWN THE RAMP AS SHE APPLIED THE BRAKES. THE CAR ACCELERATED OUT OF CONTROL AND FAILED TO BRAKE. IT JUMPED A SMALL MEDIAN AND EVENTUALLY HIT A CONCRETE BLOCK WALL AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RAMP. [XXX] MAINTAINS THAT SHE WAS APPLYING THE BRAKES DURING THE DESCENT DOWN THE RAMP UP THE MOMENT OF IMPACT AND THE CAR WAS STILL CONTINUING TO ACCELERATE AND BRAKES DID NOT RESPOND. I CONTACTED HONDA AND SUBMITTED A WRITTEN REQUEST THAT THE EVENT DATA RECORDER (EDR) BE TESTED. A REPRESENTATIVE FROM HONDA CALLED ME ON SEPTEMBER 6 (I WAS ONLY GIVEN A FIRST NAME OF [XXX]) HE EXPLAINED THAT ON OR ABOUT AUGUST 19 A TECHNICIAN EXAMINED THE VEHICLE AND DETERMINED THAT NO PRE ACCIDENT DATA COULD BE RECOVERED. HE EXPLAINED THAT WHILE THE 2012 HONDA PILOT HAS AN EDR ONLY SOME OF THESE VEHICLES HAVE THE ABILITY TO RECORD PRE ACCIDENT DATA AND THAT MINE DID NOT HAVE THIS ABILITY. HE ALSO SAID THAT I WOULD NOT RECEIVE A REPORT OR ANY CONFIRMATION IN WRITING ABOUT THE INCIDENT OR SUBSEQUENT EXAMINATION OF THE VEHICLE. THE OWNER MANUAL INDICATES THAT EDRS HAS THE ABILITY TO RECORD DATA UP TO 30 SECONDS PRIOR TO THE ACCIDENT IT WILL REPORT IF THE ACCELERATOR OR BRAKE WAS BEING ACTIVATED AT THE MOMENT OF IMPACT. IT WILL ALSO INDICATE THE VEHICLE SPEED. MY REQUEST IS THAT HONDA FOLLOW THROUGH AND TEST THE EDR TO DETERMINE IF THE BRAKES AND OR ACCELERATOR MALFUNCTIONED AS [XXX] MAINTAINS AND SUPPLY THE RESULTS TO ME. INFORMATION REDACTED PURSUANT TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT (FOIA), 5 U.S.C. 552(B)(6). *TR

WHEN DRIVING ON THE HIGHWAY AND BRAKING THE STEERING WHEEL SHAKES. CONFIRMED BY DEALERSHIP: WARPED ROTORS/ LIMITED BRAKE PAD USE: TO BE PRECISE 2 MILLIMETERS OF BRAKE PAD USE. MILEAGE IS UNDER 26,000, 2 & 1/2 YEAR OLD CAR. I AM AN AVERAGE DRIVER. IN MY OPINION TO HAVE THE ROTORS WARP WITH LIMITED USE ON THE BRAKE PADS LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT THE ROTORS WERE DEFECTIVE FROM THE START. HOWEVER THE DEALERSHIP IS STIPULATING WEAR AND TEAR WITH A $600 BILL INCLUDING REPLACING MY LIMITED WORN BRAKE PADS. I'M SURE I AM NOT THE ONLY OWNER WITH THIS DEFECT. ABSOLUTELY ABSURD! *TR

THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT AND VTM4 LIGHT COME ON AFTER OVER AN HOUR OF DRIVING. SOMETIMES THE WHOLE INSIDE OF THE CAR SMELLS HAS WHILE DRIVING AND THE FUEL CONSUMPTION IS NOT EFFICIENT. IN ADDITION WHEN THE CAR SITS IN THE GARAGE FOR A FEW DAYS, MAYBE 2-3, AND I START DRIVING, THE WHEELS MAKE SOME DEEP BRUSHING NOISE. THIS GETS WORST WHEN I BRAKE. SOMETIMES IT SMELLS LIKE SOMETHING IS BURNING UNDER THE HOOD OR AROUND THE ENGINE. *TR

WHEN I PURCHASED THE VEHICLE NEW IN MAY 2012, THERE WAS A SEVERE 'PULSING' VIBRATION WHEN BRAKING FROM SPEEDS > 60MPH. I TOOK THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER, THEY SAID THIS WAS BECAUSE IT SAT ON THE LOT WITHOUT BEING MOVED, AND 'MACHINED' THE RUST OFF THE ROTORS, WHICH SEEMED TO HAVE FIXED THE PROBLEM. NOW THE PROBLEM HAS REAPPEARED AT APPROXIMATELY 35000-40000 MILES. AGAIN THE DEALER SAYS IT IS A PROBLEM WITH THE REAR ROTORS, AND THEY NEED TO BE RESURFACED AND THE BRAKE PADS REPLACED. I OWNED A 2004 PILOT AND NEVER EXPERIENCED THIS PROBLEM WITH IT IN THE 100,000 MILES I DROVE IT. MY DRIVING HABITS HAVE NOT CHANGED. THERE SEEMS TO BE SOME SORT OF PROBLEM WITH THE BRAKE ROTORS ON THIS MODEL - BRAKING DISTANCE IS LONGER THAN MY PRIOR MODEL AND THE VIBRATION/PULSING IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO CAUSE A CONCERN FOR SAFETY. *TR

WHEN BRAKING AT SPEEDS ABOVE 50 MPH, THERE IS A VIBRATION AT THE STEERING WHEEL. I BROUGHT THE VEHICLE TO A HONDA DEALER AND WAS TOLD THE FRONT ROTORS SHOULD BE REFACED WHEN THE CAR NEEDS NEW BRAKE PADS. I HAVE HAD A 2006,2009, AND 2012 PILOT. MY DRIVING HABITS HAVE NOT CHANGED, THE MILEAGE PER YEAR IS CONSISTENT, AND THERE HAS BEEN NO HARD OR EXCESSIVE BRAKING. I HAVE NOT HAD THIS PROBLEM WITH THE OTHER MODEL YEARS. SO, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? ARE THE CURRENT ROTORS THINNER OR INFERIOR? *TR