2014 Honda Odyssey

The contact owns a 2014 Honda Odyssey. The contact stated that the third-row passenger’s side seat failed to lock in place and collapsed when touched. The seat was previously stored in a closet. There were no warning lights illuminated. The contact called the local dealer but the vehicle was not diagnosed or repaired. The contact stated the failure was related to NHTSA Campaign Number: 18V170000 (Seats). The manufacturer was notified but no additional assistance was provided. The approximate failure mileage was 168,000.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE SECOND-ROW SEAT ON THE PASSENGER'S SIDE FAILED TO LATCH SECURELY. STOCKTON 12 HONDA (10860 S AUTO MALL DR, SANDY, UT 84070, (801) 981-4920) WAS CONTACTED AND INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT THE PASSENGER'S SEAT WAS NOT UNDER RECALL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHERE THE VEHICLE WAS INSPECTED BUT, NOT REPAIRED. THE CONTACT REFERENCED NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 16V933000 (SEATS) AND 17V725000 (SEATS) AS POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS TO THE FAILURE HOWEVER, THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE TO CONFIRM INFORMATION. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 70,000. *BF*JB

WHILE DRIVING, I WAS INTERMITTENTLY USING THE SEAT WARMERS (TOGGLING BETWEEN THE HIGH, LOW, AND OFF SETTINGS.) UPON EXITING THE VEHICLE, THE BACK OF MY LEGS FELT VERY SORE AND IRRITATED. THE NEXT MORNING, IT WAS EVIDENT I HAD SECOND DEGREE BURNS, WHICH WAS CONFIRMED 2 DAYS LATER BY A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, WHO TREATED ME FOR THE BURNS.

THE SECOND ROW OUTBOARD SEATS COME UNSECURED FROM THE FLOOR OF THE VEHICLE. THIS CONTINUES TO HAPPEN AFTER HONDA PERFORMED ITS MOST RECENT RECALL REPAIR. A FOUR YEAR OLD 38 LB. CHILD KICKED THE SECOND ROW PASSENGER SEAT BACK. THE SEAT CAME DISLODGED FROM THE FLOOR HOOKS/ANCHORS. SEE ATTACHED PHOTOS. THE CAR WAS STATIONARY WHEN THIS HAPPENED.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. WHEN THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED LESS THAN TWO WEEKS AGO, THE CONTACT WAS NOT INFORMED OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBERS: 18V170000 (SEATS) AND 17V725000 (SEATS) UNTIL AFTER THE PURCHASE WAS COMPLETE. THE DEALER WAS NOT CONTACTED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED AND STATED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE. THERE WAS NO TIMEFRAME FOR WHEN THE PARTS WOULD BE SUPPLIED TO THE DEALER. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE FOR NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 18V170000 (SEATS) AND PARTS DISTRIBUTION DISCONNECT FOR NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V725000 (SEATS).

RECALLS NUMBER 17V-725 AND 18V-170 APPEAR TO BE SERIOUS SAFETY ISSUES FOR PASSENGERS IN THE 2ND ROW SEATS, AND THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A MANUFACTURER SOLUTION. FOR THE 17V-725 RECALL, IT HAS BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR OVER A YEAR WITHOUT A SOLUTION OFFERED BY THE MANUFACTURER. WHY IS THIS TAKING SO LONG AND WHY HASN'T NHSTA NOT TAKEN STRONGER ACTION TO COMPEL HONDA TO FIX THE PROBLEM? THIS IS WHY YOU EXIST, TO KEEP CONSUMERS SAFE BEFORE A SAFETY INCIDENT OCCURS. PLEASE ADDRESS THIS WITH HONDA TO FIX THE PROBLEM.

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V725000 (SEATS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE RECALL REPAIR. THE CONTACT CALLED PAGE HONDA OF BLOOMFIELD AT (248) 333-3200 (1819 S TELEGRAPH RD, BLOOMFIELD HILLS, MI 48302) WHERE IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.

NOVEMBER 2017 NEWS REPORTS DESCRIBED A SAFETY RECALL OF CERTAIN MODEL YEARS OF HONDA ODYSSEY VAN SECOND ROW SEATING. THIS WAS DUE TO SEATS NOT BEING SECURE IN SUDDEN STOP OR IMPACT. SINCE THAT TIME, NOW 4 MONTHS, SEVERAL DEALERSHIP CLAIM NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHEN THE RECALL REPAIRS WILL BE HONORED AND REFER CALLERS TO HONDA AMERICA. HONDA AMERICA REFERS ALL CALLS TO DEALERS AND STATES THIS IS "NOT REALLY A SAFETY ISSUE" BUT A MATTER OF OPERATOR ERROR. I WOULD SUBMIT THAT IF THE SEAT LATCH SYSTEM CAN BE INSTALLED/OPERATED IMPROPERLY THEN IT IS IN FACT A SAFETY RELATED DESIGN DEFECT WHICH A CORPORATION THE SIZE OF HONDA COULD HAVE REPAIRED BY NOW, IF THEY WERE NOT DENYING THE PROBLEM! CAN DOT ENFORCE AN EXISTING FEDERAL RECALL?

TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2014 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT RECEIVED NOTIFICATION OF NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 17V725000 (SEATS); HOWEVER, THE PARTS TO DO THE REPAIR WERE UNAVAILABLE. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE MANUFACTURER EXCEEDED A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME AS THE RECALL NOTICE WAS RECEIVED OVER THREE MONTHS AGO. THE DEALER (MIKE PATTON HONDA, 1406 LAFAYETTE PKWY, LAGRANGE, GA 30241) WAS CONTACTED AND CONFIRMED THAT THE PARTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE FOR THE RECALL REMEDY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE ISSUE. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE. VIN TOOL CONFIRMS PARTS NOT AVAILABLE.