2012 Honda Odyssey

PURCHASED 2012 HONDA ODYSSEY WITH 49K MILES, LOOKED LIKE NEW INSIDE AND OUT, DEALERSHIP PREPPED VEHICLE, INCLUDING NEW TIRES, A FEW MINOR REPAIRS WERE NEEDED, REQUESTED EVERYTHING BE GONE OVER, VEHICLE SAFETY WAS A PRIORITY. I GAVE THEM AN ADDITIONAL MONTH TO ORDER PARTS AND TO TAKE THEIR TIME TO MAKE SURE ALL WAS COMPLETED PROPERLY. DISCOVERED THE NEW ALL SEASON TIRES WERE REALLY DEDICATED MICHELIN WINTER TIRES AS I AM DRIVING ALL SUMMER, HIGHWAY INTERSTATE. THEY DIDN'T REPLACE THE CORRODED, LEAKING TPMS SENOR/VALVE STEMS, THEY LEFT THE ORIGINAL ONES IN. WHILE ON AN OUT OF STATE TRIP, THE PRESSURE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON. ALSO DISCOVERED THE(2) SAFETY LATCH RECALLS FROM HONDA WERE STILL OPEN AS I AM DRIVING MY KIDS AND OTHER STUDENTS IN OUR VAN. THE DEALERSHIP SALESMAN ENSURED ME ALL WOULD BE TAKEN CARE OF AS HE HAD CHILDREN HIMSELF. HE WAS SENDING THE VEHICLE TO A HONDA DEALERSHIP FOR THE KEY CYLINDER REPLACEMENT. TURNS OUT THE VEHICLE HAD 3 OPEN RECALLS. NON REPAIRED AND THEY ASSURED ME THEY HAD BEEN FIXED. THEY MARKETED THE VAN AS A LOCAL TRADE IN, LATER TO FIND OUT THE DEALERSHIP PURCHASED THE VAN AT AN OUT OF STATE AUCTION. I HAD TO PUT NEW ALL SEASON TIRES ON AND REPLACED THE LEAKING TPMS UNITS, THEY REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE ISSUES AS I HAD REPAIRS COMPLETED AT A HONDA DEALERSHIP AND SUBARU REIMBURSED ME FOR THE SMALL REPAIRS, BUT REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TIRES OR TPMS UNITS, DISMISSING ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THERE IS NO LOVE OR SAFETY AT THIS SUBARU DEALERSHIP . ALL DOCUMENTATION HAS BEEN FILED WITH THE OHIO ATTORNEY GENERAL COMPLAINT. A BIG QUESTION IS ABOUT THE VEHICLES HISTORY FROM AN AUCTION AND WHAT ELSE HAS BEEN COVERED UP AND NOT DISCLOSED.

WHILE DRIVING ON A CITY STREET, A CAR PULLED OUT IN FRONT OF ME SO I HAD TO QUICKLY HIT MY BREAKS TO AVOID A CAR ACCIDENT WITH THE OTHER CAR BUT IN THE PROCESS THE 2ND ROW PASSENGER SEAT THAT IS DIRECTLY BEHIND THE DRIVER SEAT AUTOMATICALLY FLIPPED DOWN THEN FLEW FORWARD RAMMING THE BACK OF MY SEAT AND MY BACK VERY HARD. LUCKILY MY SON WAS SITTING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE VAN AND WAS NOT SITTING IN THAT SEAT. BUT THE SEAT KEPT SLAMMING BACK AND FORTH INTO MY BACK UNTIL I COULD SAFELY PULL OVER TO LATCH THE SEAT BACK INTO PLACE. I HAVE TRIED CALLING MY LOCAL HONDA DEALERSHIP TO SEE ABOUT HAVING MY SEATS CHECKED OUT BECAUSE I'VE BEEN SCARED TO DRIVE MY VEHICLE AFTER THE INCIDENT BUT THEY TOLD ME THEY CANNOT HELP ME. ONLY TO FIND OUT THAT THERE IS NOT JUST ONE BUT TWO RECALLS ON THE 2ND PASSENGER ROW OF MY HONDA ODYSSEY. SO I CALLED THE DEALERSHIP BACK WITH THE NEW INFORMATION ON THE RECALLS, BUT I WAS TOLD THEY DO NOT HAVE THE PARTS TO FIX THE ISSUES WITH MY SEATS. I DO NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO NOW. THIS IS MY ONLY VEHICLE BUT MY LOWER BACK HAS BEEN HURTING EVER SINCE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED BUT IM WORRIED IF I KEEP DRIVING THE VEHICLE AND THE SEAT SHOULD UNLOCK AGAIN THEN IT COULD SERIOUSLY INJURE ME/MY BACK EVEN MORE OR WORSE CAUSE ME TO WRECK.

PASSENGER SIDE REAR SEAT IS EJECTING FROM THE FLOOR BOARD AND IS RECLINING ON IT'S OWN WHEN BREAKING OR GOING FORWARD. BOTH ON CITY & HIGHWAY. IT HAPPENED FIRST ON THE HIGHWAY GOING 65 AND MY HUSBAND HAD TO SUDDENLY BRAKE BECAUSE ANOTHER CAR CUT HIM OFF AND OUR 8 YR OLD SON WAS SITTING IN THE SEAT AND SUDDENLY WENT FORWARD AND SIDEWAYS AND THE SEAT RECLINED AND WOULD NOT STAY IN POSITION. THE SEAT CAME OFF THE FLOOR BOARD BRACKETS WHICH ARE SHOWN IN THE PHOTOS . ALSO IN ONE PHOTO YOU WILL SEE THE SPACE BETWEEN THE SEAT AND THE SMALLER SEAT IN THE MIDDLE HOW FAR IT CAME OFF THE BRACKETS.

2ND ROW SEAT FLIPPED FORWARD DURING MODERATELY HARD BRAKING, INJURING MY CHILD WITH A BUSTED LIP AND SCRATCHES. SHE WAS 6 YRS OLD AND SECURED IN A 5 PT HARNESS CHILD SAFETY SEAT THAT WAS SECURED INTO THIS 2ND ROW SEAT. THE SEAT FLIPPED FORWARD WITH HER IN IT CAUSING HER TO STRIKE THE BACK OF THE FRONT PASSENGER SEAT. THE SEAT CAN BE MANUAL UNLATCHED FOR REMOVAL AND TO SLIDE IT SIDEWAYS, WHICH WE HAD DONE. APPARENTLY IT NEVER LATCHED BACK PROPERLY, BUT IT APPEARED TO BE FULLY LATCHED. WE WERE TRAVELING BETWEEN 35 AND 40MPH WHEN WE HAD TO STOP UNEXPECTEDLY WHEN THE SEAT FLIPPED FORWARD. IT WAS IN AMARILLO TX ON A CITY STREET WHEN A SHORT GREEN LIGHT QUICKLY CYCLED TO YELLOW, THEN RED. THIS EVENT HAPPENED JUNE 27, 2015. WE NOW "CHECK" AND MAKE SURE BOTH KID'S SEATS ARE LATCHED (THE BEST WE CAN) BY PULLING FORWARD, WITH HEAVY FORCE, ON THE SEATS WHEN BUCKLING KIDS IN THOSE SEATS. THERE APPEARS TO NOW BE EXCESSIVE PLAY IN THE LATCH MECHANISM WHEN PERFORMING THIS "CHECK" THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH. I FEEL THESE SEATS NEED TO BE REPLACED AND ARE NOT SAFE. THESE SEATS USED TO SECURE TO THE VEHICLE TIGHTLY, BUT NOW THERE IS EXCESSIVE "PLAY" AND LOTS OF "COMPLIANCE" IN THE SEAT FASTENING SYSTEM THAT SECURES IT TO THE VEHICLE. I'M NOT CONFIDENT, EVEN AFTER MY TRIPLE CHECKING IT EVERY TIME, THAT THIS WON'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

I'M SUBMITTING THIS NOW IN RESPONSE TO AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED SEVERAL YEARS AGO, TRIGGERED BY A DEC. 27 2017 RECALL NOTICE. MY VEHICLE IS NOT LISTED AS AFFECTED BUT I BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE THE SAME PROBLEM HAPPENED TO ME ABOUT 3 YEARS AGO. ON THAT DAY, A SECOND ROW OUTBOARD SEAT TIPPED FORWARD AND BANGED AGAINST THE BACK OF THE DRIVER'S SEAT DURING A SUDDEN DECELERATION (WE WERE GOING DOWN A SMALL HILL TOWARD A STOPLIGHT, WHERE A VEHICLE APPEARED IN CROSS-TRAFFIC AND UNEXPECTEDLY BLEW THROUGH ITS RED LIGHT, REQUIRING A SUDDEN STOP BY OUR VEHICLE). MY THEN-3-YEAR-OLD WAS SEATED IN HIS FORWARD FACING CAR SEAT, A BRITAX MARATHON CONNECTED USING THE LATCH ANCHOR SYSTEM, AND THE ENTIRE VEHICLE SEAT/CAR SEAT COMBINATION FLIPPED FORWARD. HE WAS SHAKEN AND SLIGHTLY BRUISED BUT OTHERWISE FINE, I BELIEVE AS A RESULT OF THE PROTECTION FROM THE SIDE WINGS OF THE CAR SEAT. AT THE TIME THE SECOND ROW SEATS HAD NOT RECENTLY BEEN MOVED. ABOUT TWO WEEKS PRIOR THEY HAD BEEN REMOVED FOR HAULING A LARGE PIECE OF FURNITURE. AFTERWARD I REINSTALLED THE VEHICLE SEATS AND BELIEVED THEM TO BE FULLY AND FIRMLY AFFIXED TO THE VEHICLE. I WAS EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED BY NOT ONLY THE TIPPING EVENT ITSELF, BUT BY THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THE SEAT HAD BEEN DANGEROUSLY UNATTACHED DURING THOSE TWO WEEKS. I INTENDED TO SUBMIT A REPORT BUT THEN DOUBTED MYSELF. HOWEVER, THE CONFIRMATION FROM THE RECENT RECALL NOTICE THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE FOR SOME HONDA ODYSSEY VEHICLES (AND THE KNOWLEDGE THAT THERE IS A REPAIR AVAILABLE) IMMEDIATELY MADE ME WANT TO SUBMIT THIS REPORT.