IllustrationTHE BRAKES ON OUR 2008 HONDAY ODYSSEY VAN ARE CLEARLY FAILING AND WE'VE TAKEN TO THE DEALER FIVE TIMES AND THEY REPLACED TONS OF PARTS BUT THE BRAKES DO NOT WORK. THEY ARE SPONGY AND YOU HAVE TO FLOOR IT TO GET THE VAN TO SLOW DOWN. THEY ALSO GRIND AT VERY SLOW SPEEDS. *TR
2008 Honda Odyssey
Owner reports · Recalls · Investigations
More warning signs than most Odyssey years
Owner complaints for the 2008 Honda Odyssey are substantially higher than the model-year median of 249.5.
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Owner complaints by model year
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When problems were reported
Mileage at the reported incident
1170–25K
8525–50K
7450–75K
4975–100K
72100–150K
24150K+
421 reports with mileage · 78 unknown
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What to inspect
Issues worth paying extra attention to based on owner reports.
- Structure. Review the 123 owner reports in this category and discuss these concerns during a pre-purchase inspection. Read reports →
- Service Brakes, Hydraulic. Review the 88 owner reports in this category and discuss these concerns during a pre-purchase inspection. Read reports →
- Service Brakes. Review the 62 owner reports in this category and discuss these concerns during a pre-purchase inspection. Read reports →
NHTSA owner reports · September 18, 2026 snapshot.
37 crash reports8 fire reports38 injury reports
Service Brakes, Hydraulic complaints
88 reportsTHE BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY ARE TERRIBLE, VERY SOFT, SOMETIMES IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO STOP. I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE DEALER TWICE AND THEY TELL ME THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO, THEY SAY THE BRAKES ARE OPERATING PROPERLY. WHEN I LOOKED INTO THIS PROBLEM ONLINE I FOUND MANY OTHERS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. WHY IS IT GOING…
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THE BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY ARE TERRIBLE, VERY SOFT, SOMETIMES IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO STOP. I HAVE TAKEN IT TO THE DEALER TWICE AND THEY TELL ME THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO, THEY SAY THE BRAKES ARE OPERATING PROPERLY. WHEN I LOOKED INTO THIS PROBLEM ONLINE I FOUND MANY OTHERS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. WHY IS IT GOING TO TAKE A DEATH TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM! *TR
BRAKE PEDAL IS SOFT/SPONGY AND OFTEN REQUIRES PUMPING TO GET AN ADEQUATE FIRM FEEL. WHEN VAN WAS NEW, LESS THAT 1000 MILES, I TOOK TO DEALER AND WAS TOLD THE BRAKES ARE NORMAL. WAS OFFERED TO DRIVE ANOTHER 2008 DEMO VAN WHICH THEY SAID WAS NORMAL. IT ALSO HAD A SOFT/SPONGY PEDAL. I THINK THIS IS A DESIGN PROBLEM THAT SHOULD BE…
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BRAKE PEDAL IS SOFT/SPONGY AND OFTEN REQUIRES PUMPING TO GET AN ADEQUATE FIRM FEEL. WHEN VAN WAS NEW, LESS THAT 1000 MILES, I TOOK TO DEALER AND WAS TOLD THE BRAKES ARE NORMAL. WAS OFFERED TO DRIVE ANOTHER 2008 DEMO VAN WHICH THEY SAID WAS NORMAL. IT ALSO HAD A SOFT/SPONGY PEDAL. I THINK THIS IS A DESIGN PROBLEM THAT SHOULD BE CORRECTED. *TR
ALMOST IN ACCIDENT WHEN BRAKES ON 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY WENT TO FLOOR, BRAKES ARE VERY SOFT. I NOTICED THAT THE BRAKES FELT SOFT FEW WEEKS AGO, TOOK THE DEALERSHIP THEY SAID THAT IS NORMAL FOR HONDA VANS. I DON'T THINK SO THIS IS A VERY DANGEROUS. *TR
2008 HONDA ODYSSEY 5 DOOR TOURING MODEL FAILED TO STOP WHILE AT SLOW MANEUVERING SPEEDS, FORCING THE DRIVER TO JAM ON THE BRAKE AND SWERVE TO MISS VEHICLE IN FRONT, LANDING UP ON THE MEDIAN STRIP OF A BUSY SIX LANE HIGHWAY. SOME ENGINE ACCELERATION WAS EXPERIENCED DURING THIS MANEUVER, ADDING TO THE BRAKING FORCE THAT WAS REQUI…
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2008 HONDA ODYSSEY 5 DOOR TOURING MODEL FAILED TO STOP WHILE AT SLOW MANEUVERING SPEEDS, FORCING THE DRIVER TO JAM ON THE BRAKE AND SWERVE TO MISS VEHICLE IN FRONT, LANDING UP ON THE MEDIAN STRIP OF A BUSY SIX LANE HIGHWAY. SOME ENGINE ACCELERATION WAS EXPERIENCED DURING THIS MANEUVER, ADDING TO THE BRAKING FORCE THAT WAS REQUIRED. THE ACCELERATOR WAS NOT ENGAGED DURING THE INCIDENT. A SECOND INCIDENT OCCURRED A MONTH LATER IN A PARKING LOT, WITH A SUBSTANTIAL REVVING OF THE ENGINE AS THE CAR ENTERED A PARKING SPOT REQUIRING HARD BRAKING AND AN ABRUPT ENGINE SHUT DOWN. FINALLY A SIMILAR, BUT LESSER ACCELERATION WAS EXPERIENCED BY ANOTHER DRIVER (SAME CAR) WHILE BRINGING THE VEHICLE TO REST IN ITS PARKING POSITION IN THE GARAGE. ALL INCIDENTS OCCURRED WHEN THE CAR HAD BETWEEN 5,000 AND 6,000 MILES. THE DEALER FOUND NOTHING WRONG WITH THE BRAKE SYSTEM AND NO INDICATION OF A FAULT IN THE COMPUTER SYSTEM. (RECORDS OF SEVERAL ELECTRICAL FAULTS WERE FOUND BUT BELIEVED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH AN INCIDENT WHEN ANOTHER CAR WAS STARTED WITH JUMPER CABLES FROM THE ODYSSEY.) BOTH INCIDENTS OCCURRED AT SPEEDS BELOW THAT REQUIRED TO ENGAGE THE SPEED CONTROL FUNCTION. THE DEALER'S SERVICE MANAGER ACKNOWLEDGED THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE COMPLAINT, BUT INDICATED THERE WAS NOTHING FURTHER HE COULD DO WITHOUT EVIDENCE OF A FAULT. *TR
2008 HONDA ODYSSEY LX, BRAKE PEDAL TRAVELS NEARLY TO THE FLOOR. SOFT PEDAL. VAN DOES NOT STOP EASILY. WE HAVE HAD TWO NEAR MISSES WHERE THE VAN DID NOT STOP AS NORMALLY EXPECTED. THE VAN WAS TAKEN BACK TO LEHIGH VALLEY HONDA AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE BRAKES WERE NORMAL. I AM AFRAID FOR THE SAFETY OF MY WIFE AND CHILDREN IN THIS …
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2008 HONDA ODYSSEY LX, BRAKE PEDAL TRAVELS NEARLY TO THE FLOOR. SOFT PEDAL. VAN DOES NOT STOP EASILY. WE HAVE HAD TWO NEAR MISSES WHERE THE VAN DID NOT STOP AS NORMALLY EXPECTED. THE VAN WAS TAKEN BACK TO LEHIGH VALLEY HONDA AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THE BRAKES WERE NORMAL. I AM AFRAID FOR THE SAFETY OF MY WIFE AND CHILDREN IN THIS VAN AND HONDA WILL NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS VAN OR ANY OTHER HONDA VANS HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE BRAKES. *TR
NOTHING HAS FAILED YET, BUT THE BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY ARE WAY TOO SOFT. I HAVE TOLD SEVERAL SERVICE PEOPLE WITH MY DEALERSHIP, INCLUDING THE SERVICE MANAGER, AND THEY DON'T SEEM CONCERNED. I HAVE SEEN MANY OTHER PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I HAVE OWNED 7 NEW HONDA'S AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A BRAKE FEEL THIS WAY. …
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NOTHING HAS FAILED YET, BUT THE BRAKES ON MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY ARE WAY TOO SOFT. I HAVE TOLD SEVERAL SERVICE PEOPLE WITH MY DEALERSHIP, INCLUDING THE SERVICE MANAGER, AND THEY DON'T SEEM CONCERNED. I HAVE SEEN MANY OTHER PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS ISSUE. I HAVE OWNED 7 NEW HONDA'S AND I HAVE NEVER HAD A BRAKE FEEL THIS WAY. *TR
2007 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L. VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP AT 4-WAY STOP INTERSECTION WHEN APPLYING NORMAL BRAKE PEDAL PRESSURE AND WENT THROUGH STOP SIGN. VEHICLE HAS SOFT BRAKES AND NO DEFINITE BRAKE ENGAGEMENT ZONE. BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL IS EXCESSIVE AND CAN RESULT IN SIMULTANEOUSLY DEPRESSING ACCELERATOR WHEN APPLYING BRAKES. MUST MAI…
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2007 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L. VEHICLE FAILED TO STOP AT 4-WAY STOP INTERSECTION WHEN APPLYING NORMAL BRAKE PEDAL PRESSURE AND WENT THROUGH STOP SIGN. VEHICLE HAS SOFT BRAKES AND NO DEFINITE BRAKE ENGAGEMENT ZONE. BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL IS EXCESSIVE AND CAN RESULT IN SIMULTANEOUSLY DEPRESSING ACCELERATOR WHEN APPLYING BRAKES. MUST MAINTAIN EXCESSIVE DISTANCE BETWEEN CARS AT HIGHWAY SPEED TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE BRAKING MARGIN. HAVE DESCRIBED PROBLEM TO DEALER ON 3 OCCASIONS AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THIS IS "NORMAL" BEHAVIOR. WE HAD A 2005 ODYSSEY THAT DID NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM. *TR
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2008 AND HAS LOGGED 2800 MILES. THE VEHICLE EXHIBITS SOFT BRAKES WITH EXCESSIVE PEDAL TRAVEL OF 3 INCHES WITH A SPONGY FEEL AT THE END AND REQUIRED EXCESSIVE FORCE TO PRODUCE AN ABRUPT STOP. HE HAS HAD DIFFICULTY STOPPING BEFORE CROSSING A LINE…
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TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED ON SEPTEMBER 15, 2008 AND HAS LOGGED 2800 MILES. THE VEHICLE EXHIBITS SOFT BRAKES WITH EXCESSIVE PEDAL TRAVEL OF 3 INCHES WITH A SPONGY FEEL AT THE END AND REQUIRED EXCESSIVE FORCE TO PRODUCE AN ABRUPT STOP. HE HAS HAD DIFFICULTY STOPPING BEFORE CROSSING A LINE AT AN INTERSECTION AND ALMOST BROAD SIDED A VEHICLE AT 15 MPH BECAUSE IT TOOK SO LONG TO COME TO A COMPLETE STOP. THE DEALER HAS REPLACED THE MASTER CYLINDER, CHECKED THE ABS AND BLED THE BRAKE LINE WITH NO CHANGE IN PERFORMANCE. THE DEALER ALSO STATED THAT THE BRAKES ARE OPERATING NORMALLY. A COMPLAINT WAS FILED WITH THE MANUFACTURER; HOWEVER, NO ASSISTANCE OR REFUND WAS RECEIVED FROM THEM OR THE DEALER. HE IS FORCED TO DRIVE AN UNSAFE VEHICLE. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 2800.
HAVE THREE COMPLAINTS. COMPLAINT ONE: THERE IS EXTREMELY LONG PEDAL TRAVEL FOR BRAKE PEDAL. THIS TRAVEL GIVES THE DRIVER A SENSE OF BRAKE FAILURE, AS THOUGH THE BRAKES DON'T WORK OR WILL NOT STOP VEHICLE. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS AS A COMMON PROBLEM COMPLAINT TWO: WIND NOISE ON THE PASSENGER AND DRIVER PILLAR THAT SEPA…
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HAVE THREE COMPLAINTS. COMPLAINT ONE: THERE IS EXTREMELY LONG PEDAL TRAVEL FOR BRAKE PEDAL. THIS TRAVEL GIVES THE DRIVER A SENSE OF BRAKE FAILURE, AS THOUGH THE BRAKES DON'T WORK OR WILL NOT STOP VEHICLE. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS AS A COMMON PROBLEM COMPLAINT TWO: WIND NOISE ON THE PASSENGER AND DRIVER PILLAR THAT SEPARATES THE FRONT SEAT AND THE MIDDLE SEAT COMBINATION. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM. COMPLAINT THREE: THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DIRT IN PAINT AND PAINT SHADING WHERE IT DOESN'T MATCH REST OF VEHICLE (PAINT SHADING CAN BE SEEN IF THE SUN SHINES ON THE VEHICLE JUST RIGHT). HONDA HAS OFFERED TO REPAINT AFFECTED PARTS. I FEEL THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM AND THE OWNER SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A NEW CAR REPAINTED WITH LESS THAN 1000 MILES. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM. *TR
Official recalls
414V112000 · Fuel System, Gasoline:delivery:fuel Pump
Mar 14, 2014
American Honda Motor Co., Inc. (Honda) is recalling certain 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey vehicles manufactured June 23, 2004, through September 4, 2010. In the affected vehicles, the fuel pump strainer cover may deteriorate allowing fuel to leak out.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: A fuel leak increases the risk of a fire.
Remedy: Parts to permanently repair the affected vehicles are not currently available. Honda will notify owners with an interim letter during May 2014. A second notice was mailed to owners October 6, 2014 when the remedy became available. Any vehicles that are currently leaking from the fuel pump cover will get a replacement, original cover. All vehicles, including those receiving the interim repair, will get an improved cover when they are available. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. The recall numbers associated with this campaign are JD9 (inspection and/or preliminary part replacement) and JE0 (final parts replacement).
13V500000 · Electrical System:software
Nov 1, 2013
American Honda Motor Company (Honda) is recalling certain model year 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles manufactured August 8, 2006, through September 8, 2008. Due to a combination of system components and software, the Vehicle Safety Assist System (VSA) may apply the brakes unexpectedly.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: The vehicle may suddenly and unexpectedly brake hard, and without illuminating the brake lights, increasing the risk of a crash from behind.
Remedy: Parts to remedy these vehicles will not be available until the spring of 2014. Honda will send owners an interim letter notifying them of the issue and instruct them how to prevent unintended braking. A second notification will be sent when the parts become available. Interim notification was mailed in December 2013. The recall began on April 29, 2014. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009 or visit their website at www.recalls.honda.com. Honda's recall number is JC5.
12V062000 · Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate; Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:hinge And Attachments; Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:support Device/strut
Feb 16, 2012
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2008-2009 ODYSSEY VEHICLES, THE GAS-FILLED STRUTS THAT HELP TO RAISE AND SUPPORT THE LIFTGATE OF VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A POWER LIFTGATE SYSTEM MAY BE PRONE TO EARLY LIFE FAILURES DUE TO A MANUFACTURING FLAW. THE FLAW CAN RESULT IN A LEAK OF THE PRESSURIZED GAS, LEADING TO REDUCED STRUT PERFORMANCE.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: STRUTS WITH DIMINISHED PERFORMANCE CAN LEAD TO UNEXPECTED CLOSURE, INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE BOTH POWER LIFTGATE GAS STRUTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 12, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.
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Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:support Device/strut
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2008-2009 ODYSSEY VEHICLES, THE GAS-FILLED STRUTS THAT HELP TO RAISE AND SUPPORT THE LIFTGATE OF VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A POWER LIFTGATE SYSTEM MAY BE PRONE TO EARLY LIFE FAILURES DUE TO A MANUFACTURING FLAW. THE FLAW CAN RESULT IN A LEAK OF THE PRESSURIZED GAS, LEADING TO REDUCED STRUT PERFORMANCE.
Consequence: STRUTS WITH DIMINISHED PERFORMANCE CAN LEAD TO UNEXPECTED CLOSURE, INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE BOTH POWER LIFTGATE GAS STRUTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 12, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.
Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:hinge And Attachments
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2008-2009 ODYSSEY VEHICLES, THE GAS-FILLED STRUTS THAT HELP TO RAISE AND SUPPORT THE LIFTGATE OF VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A POWER LIFTGATE SYSTEM MAY BE PRONE TO EARLY LIFE FAILURES DUE TO A MANUFACTURING FLAW. THE FLAW CAN RESULT IN A LEAK OF THE PRESSURIZED GAS, LEADING TO REDUCED STRUT PERFORMANCE.
Consequence: STRUTS WITH DIMINISHED PERFORMANCE CAN LEAD TO UNEXPECTED CLOSURE, INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE BOTH POWER LIFTGATE GAS STRUTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 12, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.
Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2008-2009 ODYSSEY VEHICLES, THE GAS-FILLED STRUTS THAT HELP TO RAISE AND SUPPORT THE LIFTGATE OF VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A POWER LIFTGATE SYSTEM MAY BE PRONE TO EARLY LIFE FAILURES DUE TO A MANUFACTURING FLAW. THE FLAW CAN RESULT IN A LEAK OF THE PRESSURIZED GAS, LEADING TO REDUCED STRUT PERFORMANCE.
Consequence: STRUTS WITH DIMINISHED PERFORMANCE CAN LEAD TO UNEXPECTED CLOSURE, INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE BOTH POWER LIFTGATE GAS STRUTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 12, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.
10V098000 · Service Brakes, Air
Mar 16, 2010
HONDA HAS NOTIFIED NHTSA OF A DEFECT IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2007 AND 2008 ODYSSEY AND ELEMENT PASSENGER VEHICLES MANUFACTURED BETWEEN JULY 28, 2006 AND AUGUST 21, 2008. AIR CAN ENTER THE VSA MODULAR PUMP DURING AN INITIAL SELF-CHECK PROCESS THAT OCCURS SHORTLY AFTER EACH TIME THE ENGINE IS STARTED. IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ENOUGH AIR TO ENTER THE SYSTEM TO RESULT IN A BRAKE PEDAL THAT FEELS SOFT OR LOWER TO THE FLOOR.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: IF THE OWNER DOES NOT HAVE ANY BRAKE SERVICE OR MAINTENANCE PERFORMED OVER A PERIOD OF MONTHS OR YEARS, THE SYSTEM CAN CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE ENOUGH AIR TO AFFECT BRAKING PERFORMANCE, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNER AND HONDA DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE VSA MODULATOR BY REMOVING ANY EXISTING AIR IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM THEN APPLY SEALANT AND CAPS TO PREVENT AIR FROM ENTERING THE BRAKE SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MAY 3, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
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NHTSA investigations
5PE13024 · Inappropriate Autonomous Braking
Opened Jun 25, 2013 · Closed Nov 4, 2013
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Electronic Stability Control
In a letter dated October 31, 2013, Honda Motor Company (Honda) submitted a recall notice to NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation describing a defect in the Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) system in approximately 344,187 model year (MY) 2007 and 2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles produced from August 8, 2006 through September 8, 2008 (NHTSA Recall 13V-500, Honda Recall JC5).The report describes a defect condition caused by a combination of VSA system components and software that is unique to the MY 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles.The condition may result in unexpected brake application by the VSA system with no brake lamp illumination.The braking forces resulting from the condition can approach the maximum braking capability of the vehicle.Honda's investigation determined that (1) if the yaw rate sensor off-set exceeds a certain value, (2) the sensor calibration is not completed before the vehicle starts moving after start-up, and (3) the vehicle is driven in a specific manner; the VSA system may build hydraulic pressure in the brake system resulting in heavy, unexpected braking without the driver applying the brake pedal.Honda estimates that the parts necessary to correct this condition will not be available until March 2014.Pending part availability, Honda will send interim letters to affected owners including instructions to avoid the defect condition using a procedure to ensure proper VSA system calibration after each vehicle start-up, as well as instructions about what to do if unexpected brake application occurs while driving.Once the remedy parts are available, Honda will send a second notice advising owners to bring their vehicle to their dealer for installation of a redesigned yaw rate sensor.This investigation is closed.
EQ12010 · Stabilus Rear Liftgate Struts Failing
Opened Sep 28, 2012 · Closed Dec 31, 2012
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:support Device/strut
Please see the attached closing resume summary.It has been attached to this document as a PDF.
PE11034 · Unexpected Closing Of Power Liftgate
Opened Sep 23, 2011 · Closed Feb 29, 2012
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Latches/locks/linkages:hatchback/liftgate:lock; Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate; Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:hinge And Attachments; Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:support Device/strut; Structure:body:tailgate ; Structure:body:tailgate:hinge And Attachments
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
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Latches/locks/linkages:hatchback/liftgate:lock
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:hinge And Attachments
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
Structure:body:hatchback/liftgate:support Device/strut
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
Structure:body:tailgate:hinge And Attachments
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
Structure:body:tailgate
The investigation found that the liftgate struts were failing prematurely and at an abnormal rate in certain model year (MY) 2008 Honda Odyssey Touring and 2009 Honda Odyssey Touring and EX-L model vehicles equipped with power-operated rear liftgates (note: MY 2008 Odyssey EX-L was not equipped with a power liftgate).Unlike vehicles with non-powered (manual) liftgates, the subject vehicle's liftgate can be opened automatically (via the power liftgate motor) even when the struts are in a degraded condition and can no longer support it in the open position.Consumers standing or accessing the rear cargo area under the liftgate and expecting the liftgate will stay open, can be struck when the liftgate unexpectedly drops, or can be trapped under the liftgate as it power closes, both of which can occur when the system detects and reacts to degraded struts.By contrast, users of a manual liftgate assist in lifting it, and thus notice the lack of support as the struts degrade.Honda is conducting a recall to replace the liftgate struts in approximately 45,747 MY 2008 and early MY 2009 Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates built before a manufacturing change of the liftgate strut assembly that occurred on January 13, 2009 (see NHTSA Safety Recall No. 12V-062 for further details).The vehicles subject to the recall account for 101 complaints, 12 injuries, and 5,630 of the warranty claims shown above (i.e., the MY 2009 and 2010 vehicles built after the manufacturing change experience lower failure rates).In addition, and based on consumer complaints to NHTSA, Odyssey vehicles without power liftgates experience lower complaint and injury rates than the Odyssey vehicles equipped with power liftgates (subject vehicles).The reports cited above can be reviewed online at www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchNHTSAID under the following identification (ODI) numbers:10442027, 10441232, 10437461, 10432557, 10430420, 10429962, 10412908, 10401388, 10395475, 10390216, 10343678, 10336744, 10294156
EA09014 · Air In Brake System
Opened Oct 19, 2009 · Closed May 11, 2010
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Service Brakes, Hydraulic:antilock/traction Control/electronic Limited Slip:control Unit/module
By letter dated March 15, 2010, American Honda Motor Corp. (HMC) notified the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) that it will conduct a safety recall (NHTSA Recall No. 10V-098) to address a defect in approximately 412,000 model year (MY) 2007 and 2008 Honda Odyssey and Element vehicles equipped with an ABS/VSA/TCS modulator. The recalled Odyssey vehicles were built from August 2006 August 2008.The recalled Element vehicles were built from July 2006 to July 2008. According to Honda, during an initial self-check process that occurs shortly after each engine ignition cycle, the self-diagnostic software for the VSA modulator allows a vacuum condition that can exist for several hours, allowing air to enter the VSA modulator pump.Over time, and thousands of engine ignition cycles, it is possible for enough air to enter the system to result in a brake pedal that feels soft or lower to the floor.If the customer does not have any brake service or maintenance performed over a period of months or years, the system can continue to accumulate enough air to affect braking performance.To correct the safety defect, Honda dealers will remove existing air in the brake system then apply sealant and caps to the VSA modulator to prevent air from entering the brake system, free of charge. The action taken by Honda is sufficient to resolve the issues raised by this investigation. The agency will continue to monitor this issue and reserves the right to take further action if warranted by the circumstances.Accordingly, this investigation is closed.
PE09024 · Air In Brake System
Opened May 13, 2009 · Closed Oct 19, 2009
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Service Brakes, Hydraulic:antilock/traction Control/electronic Limited Slip
THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) HAS RECEIVED 69 COMPLAINTS, AND HONDA HAS RECEIVED 613 COMPLAINTS AND FIELD REPORTS, ALLEGING LOW/SOFT/SPONGY BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006 THROUGH 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY MINIVANS.TWENTY-SIX ODI COMPLAINTS WERE ALSO REPORTED TO HONDA, RESULTING IN A TOTAL COMPLAINT COUNT OF 656.SOME COMPLAINTS ALLEGE THAT THE CONDITION RESULTED IN EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCES, INCLUDING SOME REPORTS OF ROLLING PAST STOP SIGNS OR TRAFFIC LIGHTS.THERE ARE 14 ALLEGED CRASHES IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLE POPULATION RELATED TO LOW/SOFT PEDALS. IN RESPONSE TO ODI'S INFORMATION REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY EVALUATION PE09-024, HONDA INDICATED THAT SMALL AMOUNTS OF AIR MAY ENTER THE BRAKE SYSTEM DURING INITIAL DIAGNOSTICS OF THE VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST (VSA) MODULATOR WHILE THE PUMP IS BRIEFLY ACTUATED FOR SYSTEM DIAGNOSTICS AFTER THE ENGINE IS STARTED.THE AMOUNT OF AIR GRADUALLY INCREASES WITH EACH SUCCESSIVE ENGINE START CYCLE, RESULTING IN PROGRESSIVELY INCREASING BRAKE PEDAL STROKE.ACCORDING TO HONDA, THE CONDITION DOES NOT PRESENT A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY BECAUSE THE PEDAL STROKE GRADUALLY INCREASES, PROVIDING THE DRIVER WITH INFORMATION THAT THE BRAKE PEDAL HEIGHT IS CHANGING AND REQUIRES ATTENTION.HONDA HAS FURTHER INDICATED THAT THERE IS NO DETERIORATION OF BRAKING PERFORMANCE CAUSED BY THE SUBJECT CONDITION, EVEN THOUGH THE PEDAL HEIGHT AND FEEL ARE DIFFERENT, UNTIL PEDAL STROKE HAS REACHED THE END OF TRAVEL AND THE DRIVER CANNOT PRODUCE ANY ADDITIONAL BRAKE LINE PRESSURE.HONDA STATES THAT IT IS UNAWARE OF ANY VEHICLES THAT HAVE REACHED SUCH A CONDITION AND HONDA TESTING USING A LEAKING FIELD RETURN MODULATOR INDICATES THAT IT WOULD TAKE OVER A YEAR BEFORE THE PEDAL TRAVEL WOULD REACH ITS LIMIT DURING HARD STOPS WITH 200 N (45 LBF) OF PEDAL EFFORT - THE NOMINAL FORCE REQUIRED TO REACH ABS BRAKING MODE. ODI'S ANALYSIS OF WARRANTY DATA INDICATES THAT THE MY 2007-08 ODYSSEY VEHICLES HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ALLEGED DEFECT AT A RATE OF 0.67%.THE MY 2006 ODYSSEY VEHICLES HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ALLEGED DEFECT AT A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER RATE (0.04%) THAN THE MY 2007-08 ODYSSEY.HONDA IMPLEMENTED A DESIGN CHANGE IN THE MY 2007 VEHICLES TO CHANGE THE VSA DIAGNOSTIC PROGRAM. THIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS (EA09-014) FOR THE MY 2007-08 ODYSSEY VEHICLES TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THE SCOPE, FREQUENCY, AND SAFETY-RELATED CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.