THERE IS A CLASS ACTION SUIT PRESENTLY BEING SETTLED BETWEEN OWNERS OF THE HONDA ODYSSEY VAN (EQUIPPED WITH "RUN-FLAT" PAX TIRES) AND HONDA MOTOR COMPANY AND MICHELIN TIRE COMPANY. THE ISSUE INVOLVES POOR TREAD WEAR ON THESE TIRES, THE FACT THAT THE HONDA VAN WITH THESE TIRES HAS NO SPARE TIRE, AND THE FACT THE TIRE CAN ONLY BE …
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THERE IS A CLASS ACTION SUIT PRESENTLY BEING SETTLED BETWEEN OWNERS OF THE HONDA ODYSSEY VAN (EQUIPPED WITH "RUN-FLAT" PAX TIRES) AND HONDA MOTOR COMPANY AND MICHELIN TIRE COMPANY. THE ISSUE INVOLVES POOR TREAD WEAR ON THESE TIRES, THE FACT THAT THE HONDA VAN WITH THESE TIRES HAS NO SPARE TIRE, AND THE FACT THE TIRE CAN ONLY BE CHANGED BY HONDA DEALERS EQUIPPED WITH THE "CHANGING MACHINE." THERE ARE MANY SUB-ISSUES IN THE CASE WHICH RELATE TO PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY. I HOPE NHTSA IS ATTUNED TO THIS CLASS ACTION SUIT, WHEREIN THOUSANDS OF HONDA OWNERS ARE AFFECTED. I WAS TOLD BY MY OWN HONDA DEALER, THAT TO COST TO REPLACE THE WORN-OUT TIRES, REMOUNTING AND ALIGNMENT, IS OVER $1,200. YIPES!! WORST YET, A FAMILY IN THIS HONDA VAN COULD HAVE A FLAT TIRE ON A MOTOR TRIP, HAVE NO SPARE TIRE, AND MUST "FIND" THE HONDA DEALER WHO HAS THE PATENTED EQUIPMENT TO CHANGE THE TIRE. IF YOU BREAKDOWN ON A WEEKEND, I GUESS YOU MUST STAY IN A MOTEL UNTIL THE HONDA DEALER (IF THERE IS ONE) OPENS DURING THE WEEK DAYS. THE PAX TIRES ARE A POTENTIAL HAZARD TO THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF PASSENGERS IN THE HONDA ODYSSEY TOURING MODEL WHICH IS EQUIPPED WITH THESE TIRES. I HOPE NHTSA IS MONITORING THIS CASE, WHICH IS DEFINED AS FOLLOWS: RE MICHELIN NORTH AMERICA, INC.. PAX SYSTEM MARKETING AND SALES PRACTICES LITIGATION (CASE NO.8:08-MD-01911-RWT). THIS CASE IS BEING HEARD IN A "FAIR SETTLEMENT HEARING: CONDUCTED IN THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT, DISTRICT OF MARYLAND, GREENBELT DIVISION, 6500 CHERRYWOOD LANE, GREENBELT, MD 20770. PLAINTIFFS' ATTORNEY IS JAMES E. MILLER, SHEPHERD, FINKELMAN, MILLER & SHAH, LLP 65 MAIN STREET, CHESTER, CT 06412 (WWW.SFMSLAW.COM) 1-866-540-5505 NOTE: THE TIRE SPECIFICATIONS LISTED ARE NOT CORRECT. THE MICHELIN TIRE IS 235-71OR460A ENERGY LX4 PAX. ALSO KNOWN AS PAX "RUN FLAT" TIRES. DISREGARD MY COMPUTER ENTRIES, WHICH CONFORMED WITH FORMAT. BENJAMIN M. HAMILTON *TR
NHTSA ODI #10274764
26,588 miles · Jun 22, 2009
Tires
TPMS WARNING LIGHT REMAINS ON. AFTER 6 VISITS TO THE HONDA DEALER AND MULTIPLE DIAGNOSIS, STILL UNRESOLVED AND THE LIGHT WILL NOT GO OFF. TPMS SENSOR HAS BEEN CHANGED TWICE ON TWO DIFFERENT WHEELS, SYSTEM RESET AND THE WARNING LIGHT COMES BACK ON WITH A FEW DAYS OR 100 MILES AND WILL NOT GO OFF. DEALER HAS NO IDEA WHY THIS…
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TPMS WARNING LIGHT REMAINS ON. AFTER 6 VISITS TO THE HONDA DEALER AND MULTIPLE DIAGNOSIS, STILL UNRESOLVED AND THE LIGHT WILL NOT GO OFF. TPMS SENSOR HAS BEEN CHANGED TWICE ON TWO DIFFERENT WHEELS, SYSTEM RESET AND THE WARNING LIGHT COMES BACK ON WITH A FEW DAYS OR 100 MILES AND WILL NOT GO OFF. DEALER HAS NO IDEA WHY THIS GOV.'T MANDATED SYSTEM WILL NOT WORK. PLEASE ADVISE. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10274686
25,000 miles · Jun 18, 2009
Tires
OWNER PURCHASED NEW SNOW TIRES, NEW WHEELS, AND NEW TPMS SENSORS. THE 2007 ODYSSEY DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE NEW SENSORS. THE COMPUTER CONTROLLER MEMORY ONLY HAS MEMORY FOR FOUR SENSORS. THE OWNER'S MANUAL DOES NOT STATE THIS LIMITATION. HONDA SHOULD SEND NOTICE OUT TO OWNERS STATING THAT THE WHEN PURCHASING NEW TPMS SENSOR…
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OWNER PURCHASED NEW SNOW TIRES, NEW WHEELS, AND NEW TPMS SENSORS. THE 2007 ODYSSEY DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE NEW SENSORS. THE COMPUTER CONTROLLER MEMORY ONLY HAS MEMORY FOR FOUR SENSORS. THE OWNER'S MANUAL DOES NOT STATE THIS LIMITATION. HONDA SHOULD SEND NOTICE OUT TO OWNERS STATING THAT THE WHEN PURCHASING NEW TPMS SENSORS MUST BE REPROGRAMMED AND/OR REPROGRAM THE CONTROLLER AT NO CHARGE WHEN NEEDED FOR SEASONAL TIRE CHANGES. *TR
NHTSA ODI #10274293
36,000 miles · Apr 15, 2009
Tires
2007 HONDA ODYSSEY - PROBLEM IS THE VEHICLE / TIRE DESIGN. THE VAN HAS THE MICHELIN PAX TIRES; THE COMBINATION OF THE VAN AND TIRES RESULTS IN RIDICULOUS POOR TREAD LIFE RESULTING IN EXCESSIVE REPLACEMENT COSTS. OUR VEHICLE HAS 36K MILES. WE HAVE HAD ONE TIRE REPLACED UNDER WARRANTY BUT HAD TO PAY OVER $100 IN LABOR ONLY TO R…
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2007 HONDA ODYSSEY - PROBLEM IS THE VEHICLE / TIRE DESIGN. THE VAN HAS THE MICHELIN PAX TIRES; THE COMBINATION OF THE VAN AND TIRES RESULTS IN RIDICULOUS POOR TREAD LIFE RESULTING IN EXCESSIVE REPLACEMENT COSTS. OUR VEHICLE HAS 36K MILES. WE HAVE HAD ONE TIRE REPLACED UNDER WARRANTY BUT HAD TO PAY OVER $100 IN LABOR ONLY TO REPLACE THE TIRE. IN DECEMBER OF 2008, I REPLACED TWO FRONT TIRES (OVER $300 PER TIRE) PLUS PAID MONEY TO GET ALL 4-WHEELS ALIGNED (AS A SECURITY MEASURE TO MINIMIZE ANY POSSIBLE TIRE WEAR). 3-MONTHS LATER, MY TWO REAR TIRES HAD AN EXCESSIVE WEAR PATTERN ON THE INSIDE WALL. ONE OF THE TIRES IS ONLY 9-MONTHS OLD!! THE DEALER IS TELLING ME I NEED TO REPLACE BOTH TIRES AT A TOTAL COST OF $700 - THIS WEAR PATTERN WAS SOON AFTER THE DEALER ALIGNMENT. WHAT MAKES MATTERS WORSE IS THAT HONDA WILL NOT ALLOW CUSTOMERS TO REPLACE THE PAX TIRE SYSTEM WITH ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE SO THE CONSUMER IS FORCED TO PAY EXCESSIVE LABOR COSTS TO REPLACE TIRES THAT HAVE VERY POOR WEAR PATTERNS AND POOR TIRE LIFE. THE CONSUMER IS "STUCK" WITH CONTINUOUS REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT COSTS. WE CANNOT AFFORD TO REPLACE OUR TIRES YET THE DEALER TELLS US THE TIRES MUST BE REPLACED DUE TO POOR WEAR ON ONE SIDE OF EACH TIRE (EVEN THOUGH THEY ADVERTISE THE TIRE AS A "SAFE PRODUCT"??). *TR
NHTSA ODI #10265556
Mileage unknown · Nov 6, 2008
Tires
2007 HONDA MINI VAN HAS A ROARING SOUND FROM THE TIRES. *NJ
NHTSA ODI #10248152
8,000 miles · Mar 7, 2008
Tires
THE INDICATOR LIGHT FOR LOW TIRE PRESSURE COMES ON WHEN EVER THE TEMPERATURE DROPS BELOW FREEZING. IT GOES OFF AFTER THE TIRES HAVE HEATED UP, THEN COMES ON AND OFF AT IRREGULAR INTERVALS. THE DEALER CHECKED IT A COUPLE TIMES AND FINALLY SAID TO JUST IGNORE THE INDICATOR. WHY HAVE AN INDICATOR THAT IS JUST TO BE IGNORED? *TR
NHTSA ODI #10220372
Mileage unknown · Dec 31, 2007
Tires
COMPLAINT FOR TIRES ON A 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY TOURING. CONSUMER STATES THAT THE TIRES ARE SPECIAL AND CAN ONLY BE FIXED BY CERTAIN AUTHORIZED DEALERS AND MAINTENANCE PEOPLE. *KB THE CONSUMER HAD A FLAT TIRE AND HAD DIFFICULTY OBTAINING A TIRE. THE CONSUMER WAS INFORMED BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE EQUIPMENT, LOW INCIDENCE OF THE …
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COMPLAINT FOR TIRES ON A 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY TOURING. CONSUMER STATES THAT THE TIRES ARE SPECIAL AND CAN ONLY BE FIXED BY CERTAIN AUTHORIZED DEALERS AND MAINTENANCE PEOPLE. *KB THE CONSUMER HAD A FLAT TIRE AND HAD DIFFICULTY OBTAINING A TIRE. THE CONSUMER WAS INFORMED BECAUSE OF THE COST OF THE EQUIPMENT, LOW INCIDENCE OF THE PAC TIRES USE AND THE COST OF LABOR THE TIRE WAS NOT BEING SOLD AT THE PARTICULAR LOCATION AND THE CLOSEST DEALER WAS 500 MILES AWAY. (MICHELIN PAC TIRES). *JB
NHTSA ODI #10213892
5,000 miles · Dec 7, 2007
Tires
TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE VEHICLE HAS MICHELIN PAX SYSTEM RUN FLAT TECHNOLOGY, SIZE 235/710R460A TIRES (NA). WHILE DRIVING 5 MPH, THE VEHICLE SLID. THE CONTACT COULD NOT PULL INTO HIS DRIVEWAY DUE TO AN INCH OF SNOW. HE FEELS THAT THE TIRES WERE NOT MADE FOR THE SNOW BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRACTION. THE DO…
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TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE VEHICLE HAS MICHELIN PAX SYSTEM RUN FLAT TECHNOLOGY, SIZE 235/710R460A TIRES (NA). WHILE DRIVING 5 MPH, THE VEHICLE SLID. THE CONTACT COULD NOT PULL INTO HIS DRIVEWAY DUE TO AN INCH OF SNOW. HE FEELS THAT THE TIRES WERE NOT MADE FOR THE SNOW BECAUSE THERE WAS NO TRACTION. THE DOT NUMBER WAS UNKNOWN. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 5,000.
American Honda Motor Co., Inc. (Honda) is recalling certain 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey vehicles manufactured June 23, 2004, through September 4, 2010. In the affected vehicles, the fuel pump strainer cover may deteriorate allowing fuel to leak out.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: A fuel leak increases the risk of a fire.
Remedy: Parts to permanently repair the affected vehicles are not currently available. Honda will notify owners with an interim letter during May 2014. A second notice was mailed to owners October 6, 2014 when the remedy became available. Any vehicles that are currently leaking from the fuel pump cover will get a replacement, original cover. All vehicles, including those receiving the interim repair, will get an improved cover when they are available. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. The recall numbers associated with this campaign are JD9 (inspection and/or preliminary part replacement) and JE0 (final parts replacement).
American Honda Motor Company (Honda) is recalling certain model year 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles manufactured August 8, 2006, through September 8, 2008. Due to a combination of system components and software, the Vehicle Safety Assist System (VSA) may apply the brakes unexpectedly.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: The vehicle may suddenly and unexpectedly brake hard, and without illuminating the brake lights, increasing the risk of a crash from behind.
Remedy: Parts to remedy these vehicles will not be available until the spring of 2014. Honda will send owners an interim letter notifying them of the issue and instruct them how to prevent unintended braking. A second notification will be sent when the parts become available. Interim notification was mailed in December 2013. The recall began on April 29, 2014. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009 or visit their website at www.recalls.honda.com. Honda's recall number is JC5.
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2005-2007 ODYSSEY AND ACURA RL VEHICLES. BRAKE FLUID CONTAINING POLYMERS IS USED THAT ACTS AS A LUBRICANT FOR CERTAIN BRAKE SYSTEM COMPONENTS. IF REPLACEMENT BRAKE FLUID IS USED THAT DOES NOT CONTAIN SUCH POLYMERS, OR THAT CONTAINS ONLY SMALL AMOUNTS, A PART OF THE RUBBER SEAL LOCATED AT THE REAR OF THE BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER MAY BECOME DRY, AND THE SEAL MAY CURL DURING MOVEMENT OF THE PISTON. IF THIS OCCURS, A SMALL AMOUNT OF BRAKE FLUID COULD SLOWLY LEAK FROM THE SEAL INTO THE BRAKE BOOSTER.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: A LEAK OF BRAKE FLUID COULD LEAD TO A CHANGE IN BRAKE PEDAL FEEL AND OVERTIME A DEGRADATION IN BRAKING PERFORMANCE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy: DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE BRAKE MASTER CYLINDER SEAL FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN DURING DECEMBER 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
HONDA HAS NOTIFIED NHTSA OF A DEFECT IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2007 AND 2008 ODYSSEY AND ELEMENT PASSENGER VEHICLES MANUFACTURED BETWEEN JULY 28, 2006 AND AUGUST 21, 2008. AIR CAN ENTER THE VSA MODULAR PUMP DURING AN INITIAL SELF-CHECK PROCESS THAT OCCURS SHORTLY AFTER EACH TIME THE ENGINE IS STARTED. IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ENOUGH AIR TO ENTER THE SYSTEM TO RESULT IN A BRAKE PEDAL THAT FEELS SOFT OR LOWER TO THE FLOOR.
Consequence & remedy
Consequence: IF THE OWNER DOES NOT HAVE ANY BRAKE SERVICE OR MAINTENANCE PERFORMED OVER A PERIOD OF MONTHS OR YEARS, THE SYSTEM CAN CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE ENOUGH AIR TO AFFECT BRAKING PERFORMANCE, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Remedy: HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNER AND HONDA DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE VSA MODULATOR BY REMOVING ANY EXISTING AIR IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM THEN APPLY SEALANT AND CAPS TO PREVENT AIR FROM ENTERING THE BRAKE SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MAY 3, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
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PE13024 · Inappropriate Autonomous Braking
Opened Jun 25, 2013 · Closed Nov 4, 2013
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Electronic Stability Control
In a letter dated October 31, 2013, Honda Motor Company (Honda) submitted a recall notice to NHTSA's Office of Defects Investigation describing a defect in the Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) system in approximately 344,187 model year (MY) 2007 and 2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles produced from August 8, 2006 through September 8, 2008 (NHTSA Recall 13V-500, Honda Recall JC5).The report describes a defect condition caused by a combination of VSA system components and software that is unique to the MY 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles.The condition may result in unexpected brake application by the VSA system with no brake lamp illumination.The braking forces resulting from the condition can approach the maximum braking capability of the vehicle.Honda's investigation determined that (1) if the yaw rate sensor off-set exceeds a certain value, (2) the sensor calibration is not completed before the vehicle starts moving after start-up, and (3) the vehicle is driven in a specific manner; the VSA system may build hydraulic pressure in the brake system resulting in heavy, unexpected braking without the driver applying the brake pedal.Honda estimates that the parts necessary to correct this condition will not be available until March 2014.Pending part availability, Honda will send interim letters to affected owners including instructions to avoid the defect condition using a procedure to ensure proper VSA system calibration after each vehicle start-up, as well as instructions about what to do if unexpected brake application occurs while driving.Once the remedy parts are available, Honda will send a second notice advising owners to bring their vehicle to their dealer for installation of a redesigned yaw rate sensor.This investigation is closed.
EA09014 · Air In Brake System
Opened Oct 19, 2009 · Closed May 11, 2010
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Service Brakes, Hydraulic:antilock/traction Control/electronic Limited Slip:control Unit/module
By letter dated March 15, 2010, American Honda Motor Corp. (HMC) notified the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) that it will conduct a safety recall (NHTSA Recall No. 10V-098) to address a defect in approximately 412,000 model year (MY) 2007 and 2008 Honda Odyssey and Element vehicles equipped with an ABS/VSA/TCS modulator. The recalled Odyssey vehicles were built from August 2006 August 2008.The recalled Element vehicles were built from July 2006 to July 2008. According to Honda, during an initial self-check process that occurs shortly after each engine ignition cycle, the self-diagnostic software for the VSA modulator allows a vacuum condition that can exist for several hours, allowing air to enter the VSA modulator pump.Over time, and thousands of engine ignition cycles, it is possible for enough air to enter the system to result in a brake pedal that feels soft or lower to the floor.If the customer does not have any brake service or maintenance performed over a period of months or years, the system can continue to accumulate enough air to affect braking performance.To correct the safety defect, Honda dealers will remove existing air in the brake system then apply sealant and caps to the VSA modulator to prevent air from entering the brake system, free of charge. The action taken by Honda is sufficient to resolve the issues raised by this investigation. The agency will continue to monitor this issue and reserves the right to take further action if warranted by the circumstances.Accordingly, this investigation is closed.
PE09024 · Air In Brake System
Opened May 13, 2009 · Closed Oct 19, 2009
Status: closed (inferred from source dates) · Service Brakes, Hydraulic:antilock/traction Control/electronic Limited Slip
THE OFFICE OF DEFECTS INVESTIGATION (ODI) HAS RECEIVED 69 COMPLAINTS, AND HONDA HAS RECEIVED 613 COMPLAINTS AND FIELD REPORTS, ALLEGING LOW/SOFT/SPONGY BRAKE PEDAL TRAVEL IN MODEL YEAR (MY) 2006 THROUGH 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY MINIVANS.TWENTY-SIX ODI COMPLAINTS WERE ALSO REPORTED TO HONDA, RESULTING IN A TOTAL COMPLAINT COUNT OF 656.SOME COMPLAINTS ALLEGE THAT THE CONDITION RESULTED IN EXTENDED STOPPING DISTANCES, INCLUDING SOME REPORTS OF ROLLING PAST STOP SIGNS OR TRAFFIC LIGHTS.THERE ARE 14 ALLEGED CRASHES IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLE POPULATION RELATED TO LOW/SOFT PEDALS. IN RESPONSE TO ODI'S INFORMATION REQUEST FOR PRELIMINARY EVALUATION PE09-024, HONDA INDICATED THAT SMALL AMOUNTS OF AIR MAY ENTER THE BRAKE SYSTEM DURING INITIAL DIAGNOSTICS OF THE VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST (VSA) MODULATOR WHILE THE PUMP IS BRIEFLY ACTUATED FOR SYSTEM DIAGNOSTICS AFTER THE ENGINE IS STARTED.THE AMOUNT OF AIR GRADUALLY INCREASES WITH EACH SUCCESSIVE ENGINE START CYCLE, RESULTING IN PROGRESSIVELY INCREASING BRAKE PEDAL STROKE.ACCORDING TO HONDA, THE CONDITION DOES NOT PRESENT A SIGNIFICANT RISK TO MOTOR VEHICLE SAFETY BECAUSE THE PEDAL STROKE GRADUALLY INCREASES, PROVIDING THE DRIVER WITH INFORMATION THAT THE BRAKE PEDAL HEIGHT IS CHANGING AND REQUIRES ATTENTION.HONDA HAS FURTHER INDICATED THAT THERE IS NO DETERIORATION OF BRAKING PERFORMANCE CAUSED BY THE SUBJECT CONDITION, EVEN THOUGH THE PEDAL HEIGHT AND FEEL ARE DIFFERENT, UNTIL PEDAL STROKE HAS REACHED THE END OF TRAVEL AND THE DRIVER CANNOT PRODUCE ANY ADDITIONAL BRAKE LINE PRESSURE.HONDA STATES THAT IT IS UNAWARE OF ANY VEHICLES THAT HAVE REACHED SUCH A CONDITION AND HONDA TESTING USING A LEAKING FIELD RETURN MODULATOR INDICATES THAT IT WOULD TAKE OVER A YEAR BEFORE THE PEDAL TRAVEL WOULD REACH ITS LIMIT DURING HARD STOPS WITH 200 N (45 LBF) OF PEDAL EFFORT - THE NOMINAL FORCE REQUIRED TO REACH ABS BRAKING MODE. ODI'S ANALYSIS OF WARRANTY DATA INDICATES THAT THE MY 2007-08 ODYSSEY VEHICLES HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ALLEGED DEFECT AT A RATE OF 0.67%.THE MY 2006 ODYSSEY VEHICLES HAVE EXPERIENCED THE ALLEGED DEFECT AT A SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER RATE (0.04%) THAN THE MY 2007-08 ODYSSEY.HONDA IMPLEMENTED A DESIGN CHANGE IN THE MY 2007 VEHICLES TO CHANGE THE VSA DIAGNOSTIC PROGRAM. THIS INVESTIGATION HAS BEEN UPGRADED TO AN ENGINEERING ANALYSIS (EA09-014) FOR THE MY 2007-08 ODYSSEY VEHICLES TO CONTINUE TO INVESTIGATE THE SCOPE, FREQUENCY, AND SAFETY-RELATED CONSEQUENCES OF THE ALLEGED DEFECT.
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