2005 Honda Odyssey

I PURCHASED A HONDA ODYSSEY TOURING MODEL WITH PAX TIRES. I INQUIRED ABOUT THE TIRES AT THE TIME OF PURCHASE AND DID NOT WANT THEM. AT THE TIME I WAS NOT EDUCATED ON THE EXPENSES THE LACK OF FACILITIES THAT CARE WORK WITH THE TIRE AND ISSUES RELATED TO WARRANTY WITH THIS CAR. IT HAS BEEN A NIGHTMARE HAVING PAX TIRES AND HAS CREATED A HUGE RECURRING EXPENSE FOR ME. *TR

THE MICHELIN PAX TIRE SYSTEM: HONDA USED THIS PAX SYSTEM ON TOURING VERSIONS OF THE ODYSSEY MINI VAN IN 2005 (AND BEYOND BUT MINE IS A 2005). THESE TIRES WEAR EXTREMELY FAST AND UNEVENLY. THEY ARE EITHER AN EXTREMELY POOR DESIGN OR ARE DEFECTIVE. REPLACEMENTS CAN ONLY BE FOUND AT HONDA DEALERS. THIS IS MOSTLY AN ANNOYANCE AND ENDS UP COSTING THE OWNER THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS MORE OVER THE LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. HOWEVER, IT MAY LEAD TO SAFETY ISSUES IN THE EVENT THE AVERAGE OWNER DOESN'T THINK TO CHECK THEIR TIRES AS FREQUENTLY AT A RATE THAT WOULD CATCH A PROBLEM. *TR

2005 HONDA ODYSSEY NOISE IN THE FRONT OF THE VEHICLE AND SHAKING IN STEERING WHEEL. CONSUMER STATES THAT THE DEALER STATED THE WHEEL BEARINGS NEEDED TO BE REPLACED. EVEN AFTER THE REPLACEMENT THE PROBLEM PERSISTED. *KB THE CONSUMER WAS INFORMED THE PROBLEM HE WAS EXPERIENCING WITH THE SHAKING WAS DUE TO A INOPERATIVE CATALYTIC CONVERTER. IT WAS REPLACED, HOWEVER THE NOISE AND SHAKING CONTINUED. THE VEHICLE HAD RUN FLAT TIRES, SO IF THE TIRES BECAME FLAT THE CONSUMER COULD DRIVE UP TO 50 MILES, HOWEVER WHEN THE CONSUMER EXPERIENCED A FLAT, THE VEHICLE WOULD NOT MOVE. THE CONSUMER WAS INFORMED THE TIRE WAS DEFECTIVE. THE ENGINE LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE CONSUMER WAS TOLD THE VEHICLE NEEDED ANOTHER CATALYTIC CONVERTER. WHEN THE CONSUMER PICKED THE VEHICLE UP, THE ENGINE LIGHT WAS STILL ON.*JB

2005 HONDA ODYSSEY TOURING VAN HAVE THE PAX RUNFLAT TIRES. REPLACED 9 TIRES IN THE FIRST 30,000 MILES. ONE TIRE WAS PUT ON AND IN 2,000 MILES AND IT FAILED (BUBBLE IN SIDE WALL). MICHELIN WOULD NOT DO ANYTHING FOR ME REGARDING WARRANTY. AFTER TALKING WITH THE LOCAL HONDA DEALER, THEY TOLD ME IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR THIS TIRE TO ONLY GET 30,000 MILES ON THEM BEFORE THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED. I HAVE CALLED MICHELIN AND THEY SAID THIS MILEAGE IS THE NORM. AT $250.00 PER TIRE, SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. HE OBSERVED THAT THE TREAD ON ALL FOUR TIRES WAS WORN. THE CONTACT OWNS RUN FLAT MICHELIN ENERGY LX PAX TIRES. THE TIRE SIZE IS 235-710R-460A. THE TIRE PRESSURE IS 33 ON THE FRONT AND 35 ON THE REAR. THE TREAD ON THE FRONT, REAR PASSENGER AND DRIVER SIDE TIRES TREAD ARE WORN. THE TREADS ARE WEARING ON THE TIRES FASTER THAN NORMAL. A LOCAL TIRE DEALER STATED THAT ONLY HONDA CAN DIAGNOSE THE TIRE FAILURE DUE TO THE SPECIAL METRIC RIMS. THE DEALER AND TIRE MANUFACTURER HAVE ADVISED HIM TO BRING THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER TO PURCHASE TIRES. THE TIRES ON THE VEHICLE ARE REQUIRED TO BE REPLACED TWO TO THREE TIMES A YEAR COMPARED TO CONVENTIONAL TIRES. HONDA GAVE A QUOTE OF $2,000 TO REPLACE ALL FOUR TIRES. HE WAS NOT ADVISED AT THE TIME THE VEHICLE WAS PURCHASED OF THE ADDITIONAL COST TO CHANGE THE TIRES OR THAT THE TIRES LAST HALF AS LONG AS NORMAL TIRES. THE CONTACT ASKED HONDA TO REPLACE THE CURRENT 710 RIMS WITH CONVENTIONAL 17 INCH RIMS; HOWEVER, HE HASN'T RECEIVED A RESPONSE. THE CONTACT FILED COMPLAINT/CASE NUMBER, N012008-01-0201951 WITH THE MANUFACTURERS CUSTOMER CARE CENTER. HE ALSO SPOKE WITH THE TIRE MANUFACTURER AND AN ATTORNEY. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE 6,000.

HONDA ODYSSEY TOURING, MICHELIN PAX TIRE SYSTEM IS A CONSUMER RIP OFF. THE TIRE WEAR IS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT IS CLAIMED BY THE MANUFACTURER AND THE RUBBER COMPOUND IS SO SOFT THAT THEY ARE PUNCTURED BY EVERY NAIL OR SCREW ON THE ROAD. EVERY FLAT COSTS A MINIMUM OF $50.00 TO FIX BECAUSE OF THE JEL-PACK REQUIRED WHEN PATCHING. HONDA DOES NOT PROVIDE A SPARE TIRE OR EVEN A DONUT SPARE FOR EMERGENCIES. THE TIRES ARE SUPPOSED TO RUN FLAT FOR 125 MILES AT 50 MILES PER HOUR. IN RURAL ARIZONA, 125 MILES WON,T GET YOU ANYWHERE NEAR ONE OF THEIR " AUTHORIZED, PROPRIETARY " REPAIR PLACES. I FIND THAT THIS AUTO IS TOO DANGEROUS TO DRIVE ANY PLACE NOT NEAR A REPAIR STATION. *TR

TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2005 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE VEHICLE HAS MICHELIN PAX TIRES. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE TIRES HAVE EXCESSIVE OUTER WEAR. PIECES OF THE OUTER WALL BEGAN SEPARATING FROM THE TIRES AT 15,000 MILES. THE DEALER ONLY CHANGED ONE OF THE TIRES, BUT ALL FOUR WERE EXPERIENCING THE FAILURE. HONDA ADVISED HIM TO SPEAK WITH MICHELIN, BUT MICHELIN ADVISED HIM TO SPEAK WITH HONDA. MEANWHILE, THE WARRANTY EXPIRED. THE CONTACT WANTED TO CHANGE THE RIMS AND PLACE REGULAR TIRES ON THE VEHICLE, BUT HONDA ADVISED HIM THAT DOING SO WOULD VOID THE VEHICLE'S WARRANTY. THE DEALER ALSO ADVISED HIM TO BRING HIS VEHICLE IN EVERY 7,500 MILES TO HAVE THE TIRES ROTATED AT HIS EXPENSE. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 23,000 AND FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 15,000. UPDATED 02/01/08. *LJ

MY WIFE AND I PURCHASED A NEW HONDA ODYSSEY VAN IN 2005 WHICH WAS EQUIPPED WITH PAX RUNFLAT TIRES. AT THE TIME, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE TIRES WOULD WEAR LIKE REGULAR NON RUN-FLAT TIRES, AND WOULD BE 10-15% MORE EXPENSIVE TO REPLACE. WE WERE ALSO TOLD THAT ALL HONDA DEALERS WOULD HAVE THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT TO SERVICE THESE SPECIAL TIRES. NONE OF THESE STATEMANTS HAS PROVEN TO BE TRUE. THE TIRES ARE ALL WORN OUT AT 31K MILES, AND WE WERE QUOTED A PRICE OF $1300 PLUS TAX TO HAVE THEM REPLACED. WORSE YET, OUR NEARTEST DEALER (FLAGSTAFF HONDA) DOES NOT HAVE THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT TO SERVICE THEM 2 YEARS AFTER THEIR RELEASE. TO MAKE THINGS WORSE, WE NOW HAVE A FLAT AND GETTIGN IT FIXED WILL REQUIRE US TO DRIVE 50 MPH ON A BUSY INERSTATE (WHERE EVERYONE ELSE IS DOING 80+MPH) WHICH I REFUSE TO DO. BECAUSE OF ALL THESE PROBLEMS, I HAVE ELECTED TO PURCHASE NEW RIMS, TIRES AND PRESSURE SENSORS (PLUS A SPARE TIRE) ALL OF WHICH WILL COST OVER $1000. I CONSIDER THIS TO BE A DEFECT AND THE TIRE SYSTEM WAS NOT FAIRLY EXPLAINED, WITH ALL IT'S SHORTCOMINGS OR WE WOULD HAVE NEVER PURCHASED THIS MODEL.