2000 Honda Odyssey

SLIDING DOOR FAILURES: 8/2005 PASSENGER DOOR FAILING TO OPEN. TOOK TO THE DEALER WHO REPLACED DOOR CLOSER MOTOR ASSEMBLY. THIS CORRECTED THE PROBLEM, HOWEVER, I WAS TOLD THE CAR HAS "OLD TYPE" DOOR SWITCHES AND THESE MOST LIKELY WILL FAIL AND THEN HAVE TO BE REPLACED WITH "NEW" SWITCHES. COST $361.37 1/2006: DRIVER SLIDING DOOR FAILING TO OPEN. DEALER HAD TO REPLACE SLIDING ROLLER AND JUNCTION SWITCHES AND STOPPER. COST$ 631.35 HAVE HAD TO SPEND ALMOST $1000 IN 5 MONTHS JUST TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE SLIDING DOORS! *NM

2000 HONDA ODYSSEY CHECK ENGINE LIGHT APPEARED AND CAUSED EXTREME ERRATIC SHIFTING. SERVICE DEPART READ CODE SIGNIFYING TRANSMISSION FAILURE. *TS THE MANUFACTURER CHOSE TO EXTEND THE WARRANTY ON THE TRANSMISSION IN CANADA AND AMERICA. THE CONSUMER VEHICLE WAS NOT ELIGIBLE BECAUSE THE VEHICLE WAS NO LONGER IN CANADA. AMERICAN HONDA CLAIMED THAT SINCE THE VEHICLE WAS CANADIAN THEY WOULD NOT PROVIDE ANY FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. *NM

PURCHASED USED 2000 HONDA ODYSSEY FROM HONDA DEALERSHIP (366 ML). TOOK GREAT CARE OF VEHICLE, AT 80,309 ML TRANSMISSION NEEDED REPLACING. RESEARCHED ISSUE FOUND THAT FOR THE 2000 HONDA ODYSSEYS, HONDA ACKNOWLEDGED A MANUFACTURER'S DEFECT WITH THE TRANSMISSIONS USED. MY VEHICLE WAS OF CANADIAN ORIGIN HOWEVER IT WAS NONETHELESS AFFECTED BY THIS PARTICULAR FLAWED TRANSMISSION AS VERIFIED BY MY VIN. IN RESPONSE TO AN ACKNOWLEDGED DEFECTIVE TRANSMISSION USED IN THE 2000 HONDA ODYSSEYS HONDA RESPONDS BY EXTENDING WARRANTIES TO 7YR/100,000 MILES. HOWEVER BECAUSE MY VEHICLE IS A CANADIAN MODEL ODYSSEY IT DOESN'T MATTER TO AMERICAN HONDA THAT IS WAS AFFECTED BY THE FAULTY TRANSMISSION THEY WILL NOT HONOR ANY SERVICE TO CORRECT THEIR ACKNOWLEDGED MANUFACTURER'S DEFECT. THE VEHICLE IS REGISTERED/USED IN THE US SO HONDA OF CANADA WILL NOT HONOR ANY SERVICE TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. THERE ARE NUMEROUS CONSUMERS IN MY SAME POSITION- AN ACKNOWLEDGED MANUFACTURER DEFECT SPECIFIC TO OUR 2000 HONDA ODYSSEYS YET FOR CORPORATE REASONS HONDA REFUSES TO BE ACCOUNTABLE TO US FOR SOMETHING THEY HAVE ALREADY TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR AND HAVE SELECTIVELY PROVIDED REMEDY TO CORRECT. NOT EXTENDING THE SAME RECOURSE AS WAS PROVIDED TO ALL OTHER 2000 HONDA ODYSSEY OWNERS IN BOTH CANADA AND AMERICA HAS EXCLUDED A POPULATION OF OWNERS THAT ARE NONETHELESS AFFECTED. FOR HONDA TO PROVIDE REMEDY TO SELECT 2000 HONDA ODYSSEY OWNERS AND REFUSE REMEDY TO A CERTAIN CLASS OF INDIVIDUALS IS EXTREMELY IRRESPONSIBLE. THIS SPECIFIC TRANSMISSION DEFECT IS CLEARLY A MANUFACTURER/SAFETY ISSUE IN THAT A DEFECTIVE TRANSMISSION CAN SEVERELY IMPEDE THE PERFORMANCE OF A VEHICLE. HONDA HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THE DEFECT YET SELECTIVELY PROVIDED CERTAIN VEHICLE OWNERS RECOURSE BUT FAILED TO PROVIDE ALL. THESE DEFECTIVE VEHICLES ABANDONED BY HONDA CREATE SAFETY CONCERNS NOT ONLY FOR THE VEHICLE DRIVER BUT ALSO TO ANYONE ON THE ROAD WITH THEM. HONDA NEEDS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL AFFECTED VEHICLES. *NM

1. COLD WEATHER OR NONE 2. DRIVER SIDE FRONT STRUT SPRING BROKE TRAVELING DOWN THE STRUT AND WRAPPING THROUGH THE ABS LINE (NO LINE DAMAGE, BUT POTENTIAL ABS LINE FAILURE PRESENT) PRESSING AGAINST THE TIRE (RESULTING IN A BURNED RUBBER SMELL AND POTENTIAL TIRE FAILURE). 3. FRONT SPRING REPLACED, BEARING REPLACED, RUBBER REPLACED. (OLD PARTS ARE AVAILABLE - ALSO HAVE PHOTO OF FAILURE IN PLACE ON VEHICLE). *JB

PURCHASED VEHICLE USED FROM PRIVATE PARTY WITH 45,000 MILES ON IT. VEHICLE WAS WELL MAINTAINED BY PREVIOUS OWNER AND I CONTINUED WITH ALL REQUIRED MAINTENANCE PER HONDA SERVICE MANUAL. A SLIGHT BEARING GROWL WAS AUDIBLE FOR SEVERAL THOUSAND MILES BEFORE FAILURE AT 55,000 MILES. TRANSMISSION BEGAN SHIFTING HARD FROM 1-2, AND SLOWLY ON OTHER SHIFTS. TOOK VEHICLE TO REPUTABLE TRANSMISSION SHOP AND HAD IT REBUILT AT A COST $3100. EVIDENTLY, HONDA HAS EXTENDED ITS WARRANTY TO 7 YEARS/ 100,000 MILES TO VEHICLES WHOSE VIN # FALLS WITHIN THE LOT OF THOSE WITH ABNORMALLY HIGH TRANSMISSION FAILURE RATES. SINCE MY VEHICLE IS CLASSIFIED AS A 'GREY MARKET', IT DOESN'T QUALIFY TO RECEIVE EXTENDED WARRANTY COVERAGE. BUT IF THIS VEHICLE HAD STAYED IN CANADA, HONDA WOULD'VE REPLACED IT WHEN IT FAILED. OR IF THIS SAME VEHICLE HAD SPENT A YEAR/ 12,000 MILES IN CANADA BEFORE IT WAS TRANSFERRED TO THE U.S., HONDA WOULD'VE REPLACED THE TRANSMISSION. BUT THEY WON'T FOR ME DUE TO A TECHNICALITY. HOW'S THAT FOR CUSTOMER NON-SERVICE! TO ANY REASONABLE PERSON THIS IS BULL#@%*! ANY KNOWN FACTORY DEFECT SHOULD BE WARRANTED NO MATTER WHERE THE VEHICLE IS USED OR HOW IT WAS ORIGINALLY SOLD. IF HONDA SEEKS TO CLAIM SUPERIORITY OVER OTHER BRANDS BASED ON RELIABILITY AND CUSTOMER CARE THEY SHOULD STAND BEHIND THEIR PRODUCT AND DEAL FAIRLY WITH CUSTOMERS THAT HAVE LEGITIMATE WARRANTY CLAIMS AND NOT HIDE BEHIND SOME LEGAL LOOPHOLE THEY AND OTHER AUTOMAKERS PROBABLY HAD A HAND IN CREATING. SINCE THIS PROBLEM IS AN OBVIOUS SAFETY ISSUE, I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE A RECALL, NOT JUST A 'SELECTIVE' WARRANTY. *NM

I HAVE A 2000 HONDA ODYSSEY MINIVAN WITH 52K MILES ON IT AND THE COIL SPRING AROUND THE STRUT OF ONE OF THE WHEELS SNAPPED WHILE DRIVING ON A FLAT ROAD. THERE WAS NO TRAUMA THAT MADE IT SNAP. I WAS TOLD THAT IF THAT HAD HAPPENED WHILE WE WERE GOING 55 MPH ON THE HIGHWAY, I WOULD HAVE BEEN IN REAL TROUBLE. I DON'T THINK THAT THE COIL SHOULD HAVE SNAPPED AT 52K MILES. IT'S GOING TO COST MORE THAN $900 TO FIX. *NM

MANUAL SLIDING DOORS STICK TO THE POINT THAT OCCUPANTS CANNOT GET OUT OF THE CAR. IT HAS TAKEN TWO LARGE ADULTS (ONE PULLING FROM THE OUTSIDE AND THE OTHER KICKING FROM THE INSIDE) TO OPEN THE DOORS. PROBLEM BEGAN IN SUMMER, 2003. WE BROKE AND HAD TO REPLACE ONE OF THE DOOR HANDLES IN 11/04 BECAUSE WE WERE PULLING SO HARD TO GET THE DOOR OPEN. COMPLAINED WHENEVER WE TOOK THE CAR IN FOR SERVICE, BUT OUR COMPLAINTS NEVER APPEAR ON OUR INVOICES. THEREFORE, ACCORDING TO HONDA, THERE IS NO RECORD OF A PROBLEM WITH OUR DOORS. HONDA'S RECOMMENDATION HAS BEEN TO LUBRICATE THE DOORS, BUT WE NEVER NOTICE ANY IMPROVEMENT IN THE PROBLEM. MY DEALER JUST INFORMED ME THAT A SERVICE BULLETIN HAS BEEN ISSUED RECOMMENDING THE REPLACEMENT OF THE DOOR SEALS AT A COST TO US OF NEARLY $400. AS A "GOODWILL" GESTURE, THEY HAVE OFFERED TO PAY FOR THE PARTS, BUT WE WILL PAY NEARLY $200 TO CORRECT THIS PROBLEM. THIS SEEMS TO BE A SAFETY ISSUE THAT HONDA SHOULD CORRECT, BUT AS THE PROBLEM AROSE AFTER OUR 30,000 MILE WARRANTY, THEY FEEL THERE IS NO OBLIGATION TO FIX THE PROBLEM. I KEEP THINKING ABOUT MY CHILDREN BEING TRAPPED, PERHAPS WITH THE CAR ON FIRE, AND WONDER HOW HONDA CAN TREAT THE ISSUE SO CASUALLY. *NM

CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON ABOUT A WEEK AFTER SERVICE. ADVISE FROM DEALER TO DRIVE VEHICLE AND FILL TANK A COUPLE OF TIMES AND LIGHT SHOULD GO OFF. RESULT 1 MONTH LATER LIGHT STILL ON. IN FOR SERVICE AT DEALER REVEALS CODE P0420. THEY (DOBBS HONDA TUCSON AZ) ARE SAYING THAT THE CATALYTIC CONVERTER AS WELL AS AN O2 SENSOR NEED TO BE REPLACED COST $1,200. VEHICLE HAS 95K MILES. THIS EXCEEDS THE 80K EMISSION CONTROL WARRANTY. HOWEVER, I THIS CASE THESE ITEMS HAD BEEN REPLACED AT 75K MILES IN MAY OF 2004 BUT IT IS NOW DECEMBER 2005 AND THE VEHICLE IS PAST THE 1YR/12K MILES REPAIR WARRANTY. I HAVE APPEALED THIS PROBLEM TO DEALERSHIP MANAGEMENT AND THE ARE TALKING TO AMERICAN HONDAS WESTERN REGION MANAGER AS I AM WRITING THIS, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL DECIDE TO COVER THE REPAIR OR NOT, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT TIME. AFTER READING VARIOUS HONDA FORUMS IT APPEARS THAT THERE HAS BEEN PROBLEMS WITH THIS ON OTHER MODELS AS WELL (ACCORDS). PLEASE CONSIDER ASKING HONDA TO EXTEND THE WARRANTY ON THESE EMISSION DEVICES AND FIGURE OUT SOME SOLUTION TO PREVENT RECURRENCE OF THE PROBLEMS. THANKS. *NM